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Zarraa sahab ljjiye is baar ek sher meri taraf se bhi haazir hai
HotoN pe mere hosh ke daawe to nahi haiN
Aa tere tarke baada ko aasaan bana duN.....
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Zainy ji, welcome back
Aur wwwwwwwaaaaaahhhhhhh kya dhamaakedaar re-entry ki hai !!! Behad hi dilchasp sher kaha !! Dheron daad !!!
maiN rehnuma ke kahe raastoN se door raha
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4th September 2014, 08:14 PM
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jab baap ko bedardi se peet'tey dekha maa ko!
haqeeqat khuli ke baada haraam kyuN hai....
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Hassan bhai ..... aap ne aham aawaaz uthaayee hai .... aap ko daad is sher par !!!
maiN rehnuma ke kahe raastoN se door raha
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4th September 2014, 08:18 PM
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Waaah Hassan Sahab..Masha Allah, Masha Allah....:-)
Jab kabhi baada-o-jaam dekhta hoon
Zindagi ki sardiyon ko sekta hoon....
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Wwwwwwaaaahhhhhhh !!!!!!! Kya ehsaasaat aur bayaan hai !!! Dheron daad !!!
Sanjay ji .... aap ka bazm-e-fusoon-e-alfaaz mein khair maqdam hai. Aap ne aate hi apne aashaar se fusoon-e-alfaaz paida karna shuru diya hai !!!
maiN rehnuma ke kahe raastoN se door raha
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4th September 2014, 08:46 PM
doston .... wwwwaaaahhhhhh ..... is baar aashaar ki kya khoob anjuman sajaayee hai. haalanki main har sher par comment naheen kar paaya hoon is baar ... par main ne saare aashaar dekhe hain aur un ka jee bhar ke lutf uthaaya hai ....
lagta hai daur-e-baada-e-sukhan abhi bhi zoron se chal raha hai .... mujhe lagta hai ki "baada" lafz par charcha abhi aur chalne dete hain taaki sab rind-e-shayari us par dil bhar ke sher keh sakein aur guftagoo kar sakein.
to hum is lafz ko ek aur extension dete hain, aur 2 dinon ka. lafz baada par hum charcha jaaree rakkhenge 6th Sept raat 9:00 PM ya GMT 3:30 PM tak ....
isee baat ko ek qit'a ki shakl mein kehne ki koshish ...
baada-khaane se kis tarah jaayeiN
paaNv uth'te hi larhkharhaate haiN
yaar aate jo thaamne ke liye
wo bhi bas saath baith jaate haiN
- zarraa
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4th September 2014, 10:05 PM
Thank u so much Nazneen Ji...
Aapne aisa kaha,bahut accha kaha,kuch himmat aur bash gayi..Shukriya:-)
Dard key bistar pey yoon baada kashi kartey ho
Khuda ka khauff nahi toe phir Kis baat sey dartey ho..
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4th September 2014, 10:18 PM
Zarra Sahab Aadaab aur bahut bahut shukriya....Tahedil sey aapka shukr guzar hoon aapka alfaazon ke liye.
Baada nosh hoon bas iski justuju hai
Tanhaai ki dawa aksar iski hee khushbu hai....
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5th September 2014, 05:11 AM
Bohat khoob Zarraa sahab....dheron daad iss qita
K liye
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
Jab tak tum hum mile na the
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5th September 2014, 05:13 AM
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bohat khoob!...........................
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bohat shukriya zainy ji .....
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
Jab tak tum hum mile na the
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5th September 2014, 05:14 AM
baada-parast pii raha sehr se aagosh-e-maut ka irada to nahi hai
naa piine ki gham-e-ulfat meh zindagi se aaisa koi vada to nahi hai
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
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5th September 2014, 09:52 AM
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baada-parast pii raha sehr se aagosh-e-maut ka irada to nahi hai
naa piine ki gham-e-ulfat meh zindagi se aaisa koi vada to nahi hai
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
kya baat hai, Ananthji........
behad umdaa khub se khub hai ye sher.......
aur misra-e-ula meN '?' punctuation chhoR diya hai to paRhne waale ko aapne ek khula raastaa de diya sochne ke liye.....
bahot hi umda, khubsurat sher pe dheroN dheroN daad.....
ख़ुदा परेशां तेरी बला से तेरे सितम से तेरे अधम से
अगर हसीँ होते ज़ुल्म तेरे तू भी तो कुछ शर्मसार होता
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5th September 2014, 09:53 AM
waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh......
Zarraasaab, kya khubsurat ki'ta pesh kiyaa hai.....
dheroN dheroN daad hamaari jaanib se.........
ख़ुदा परेशां तेरी बला से तेरे सितम से तेरे अधम से
अगर हसीँ होते ज़ुल्म तेरे तू भी तो कुछ शर्मसार होता
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5th September 2014, 09:56 AM
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arz-e-iltija na kar waqt tamaam hua maikade ka baada to nahi hai
pii la de saaqii aik jaam ke tera waqt mere gham se ziyaada to nahi hai
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bahot khub......
Ananthji, ek non-drinker se itnii zabardast bayaanaat ho rahi hai.....
waaahh waaaahh waaahh.............................
ख़ुदा परेशां तेरी बला से तेरे सितम से तेरे अधम से
अगर हसीँ होते ज़ुल्म तेरे तू भी तो कुछ शर्मसार होता
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5th September 2014, 10:02 AM
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jab baap ko bedardi se peet'tey dekha maa ko!
haqeeqat khuli ke baada haraam kyuN hai....
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Hassanbhai,
WAAAAHHHH! jiis khubsurti se aapne ek haqiqat ko lafz diye haiN, qaabil-e-taarif hai.... ye cheez, nashaa, ek zarraa kii tarah hai, jo chhoti si se shuruu hoke aalam ko barbaad bhii kar deti hai... jo aapne yahaaN ba-khubii bayaaN kii hai......
SALUTE TO YOU SIR!
Adil
ख़ुदा परेशां तेरी बला से तेरे सितम से तेरे अधम से
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5th September 2014, 11:51 AM
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Hassan Bhai....Lafzon sey qaatil hain aap...waah!
Yeh shayaron' ka hai mahal,Ashaaron ki sultanat...
Har lafz mein ho moti jahan yeh hai wohi Jannat...
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Waaah Hassan Sahab..Masha Allah, Masha Allah....:-)
Jab kabhi baada-o-jaam dekhta hoon
Zindagi ki sardiyon ko sekta hoon....
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Raina jee! Adaab-o-tasleemaat,
Be-had mashkoor-o-manoon hooN itni mohabbatoN se nawaaz'ne ke liye!
Milte rahiye ga,
DuaooN ke saaath,
*hSn* : parStaar
tumhara shoq dekha to ghazal hum ne nazar kar di!
kabhi fursat meiN sun lena, bohat ashaar baqi haiN... ("Asad")
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5th September 2014, 11:53 AM
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Waaaaaaahhhhhhhhh!!!! Hassan bhai...der aaye par durust aaye...bohat khoob..dheron daad
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Ananth sir,
Hausla afzaai ke liye bohat bohat shukriyaaH!
Aise hi saath banaye rakhiye ga,
DuaooN ke saath,
*hSn* : parStaar
tumhara shoq dekha to ghazal hum ne nazar kar di!
kabhi fursat meiN sun lena, bohat ashaar baqi haiN... ("Asad")
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5th September 2014, 11:55 AM
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Waaaaaah...... Hassan ji. Dil ko choo liya.
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Sarika jee,
Aap ki daad sir aankhoN per.. !
Aagay bhi aise hi saath ki umeed rahe gi,
DuaooN ke saath,
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tumhara shoq dekha to ghazal hum ne nazar kar di!
kabhi fursat meiN sun lena, bohat ashaar baqi haiN... ("Asad")
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5th September 2014, 11:57 AM
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bohat khoob!...........................
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Zainy saheba,
It's always been nice to have encouragement from you!
Take care,
Regards,
*hSn* : parStaar
tumhara shoq dekha to ghazal hum ne nazar kar di!
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Waaaaaahhhh! PS hats off to you ek sensitive issue chera tumney....waise to sher o shayari ki duniya meiN baadaa as a subject bahot use kiya jata hai aur pasand bhi kiya jata hai lekin tumhara sher ek reality check hai....baadaa sher o shayari tak rahe to hi thik hai....well done PS
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Naazuk!
Thankyou for always giving me the extra push I need.
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tumhara shoq dekha to ghazal hum ne nazar kar di!
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Hassan bhai ..... aap ne aham aawaaz uthaayee hai .... aap ko daad is sher par !!!
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Zarraa saheb,
Hausla afzaai ke liye be-panaaH shurkiyaaH!
Milte rahiye ga,
DuaooN ke saath,
*hSn* : parStaar
tumhara shoq dekha to ghazal hum ne nazar kar di!
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Hassanbhai,
WAAAAHHHH! jiis khubsurti se aapne ek haqiqat ko lafz diye haiN, qaabil-e-taarif hai.... ye cheez, nashaa, ek zarraa kii tarah hai, jo chhoti si se shuruu hoke aalam ko barbaad bhii kar deti hai... jo aapne yahaaN ba-khubii bayaaN kii hai......
SALUTE TO YOU SIR!
Adil
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Adil bhai,
Adna si koshish ko dil meiN jagaH dene ke liye shukriyaaH ke liye
alfaaz nahi mil rahay.........
Bas Allah se dua hai ke aap aise hi khush raheN..
Apna khayaal rakhiye ga,
DuaooN ke saath,,
*hSn* : parStaar
tumhara shoq dekha to ghazal hum ne nazar kar di!
kabhi fursat meiN sun lena, bohat ashaar baqi haiN... ("Asad")
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5th September 2014, 12:50 PM
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!
kya baat hai, Ananthji........
behad umdaa khub se khub hai ye sher.......
aur misra-e-ula meN '?' punctuation chhoR diya hai to paRhne waale ko aapne ek khula raastaa de diya sochne ke liye.....
bahot hi umda, khubsurat sher pe dheroN dheroN daad.....
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Bohat bohat shukriya Aadeil sahab ....is nawazish ka tah-e-dil shukrguzar hun aap ka
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
Jab tak tum hum mile na the
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bahot khub......
Ananthji, ek non-drinker se itnii zabardast bayaanaat ho rahi hai.....
waaahh waaaahh waaahh.............................
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Bohat bohat shukriya Aadeil sahab....main non drinker zaroor hun par mere doston ko main ne sharab ki lath se joozhte kaafi kareeb se dekha hai...thanx a lot for the appreciation
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5th September 2014, 01:00 PM
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Brilliant......simply outstanding....one of your best sher on word baadaa
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Thank you so much for your comments saali sahiba...its really a morale booster for me
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5th September 2014, 05:28 PM
baada-nosh gar araq-e-sharm* se tar jaayenge
hogaa jannat ye jahaaN, ranj-o-sitam jaayenge
(*sweat of shame)
ख़ुदा परेशां तेरी बला से तेरे सितम से तेरे अधम से
अगर हसीँ होते ज़ुल्म तेरे तू भी तो कुछ शर्मसार होता
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Bohat khoob Zarraa sahab....dheron daad iss qit‘a
K liye
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waaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhh......
Zarraasaab, kya khubsurat ki'ta pesh kiyaa hai.....
dheroN dheroN daad hamaari jaanib se.........
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Waaaahhhhhhh bahot khoob zarraji is bar ka sher simple aur khoobsurat hai dimag par zada zor nahiN dena pada samajhne keliye
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Ananth ji, Aadeil bhai, N@zneen ji .... bahaut bahaut shukriya is qit'a ko pasand karne ke liye. Waise, sach mein poochhiye to, main kal isee iraada se thread par aaya tha ki mehfil-e-baada par parda gira kar naye lafz ka silsila shuru kar doon, because new word was already overdue. par yahaan shero-sukhan ki baada ka daur is sargami is masti se chal raha tha, ki main bhi bahak gaya aur naya lafz announce kare ki jagah baada par hi ek qit'a keh baitha ... aur deadline phir extend kar di
Chaliye, kal raat zaroor aaoonga naya lafz le kar aur Faiz sahab ki tarah kahoonga "gul karo shamma bardha do mayy-o-meena-o-ayaagh". tab tak ke liye ... Cheers !!
maiN rehnuma ke kahe raastoN se door raha
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baada-nosh gar araq-e-sharm* se tar jaayenge
hogaa jannat ye jahaaN, ranj-o-sitam jaayenge
(*sweat of shame)
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WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! kya baat hai...bohat khoob Aadeil sahab .... gar aaise ho jaaye .....dheron daad
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
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6th September 2014, 04:27 AM
itnii baada-noshii karne de k hojaye halaq kHuu.n-chakaa.n*
kahin nikal jaaye gham-e-zindagi sa.ng-e-kHuu.n-baar**
* blood drenched
**with oozing blood
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
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Bahot khoob thought hai jij lekin misra e saani meiN thodi confusion hai mujhe
did you mean 'kii' or 'kaash' nikal jaaye gham-e-zindagi sang-e-khooN-baar"
kyunki 'kahin' word ek confusion create kar raha hai i think ap ek wish kar rahe haiN ki 'hopefully sorrows of life would come out with the oozing of blood' so according to my limited khowledge i think 'kahin' ko symbolically bhi use nahiN kar sakte i wud really like zarraji's opinion on this...aur jij hats off what a thought brilliant
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Thanx a lot saali sahiba....u raised a good point...i would also like to know zarraa sahabs opinion on this...according to my limited knowledge kahii.n... also means ke or of and lest. I think you are hinting at kahiin as a symbol for place ...which is not what I meant here.Anyways, respected Aadeil & Zarraa sahabs viewpoints are much awaited.
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
Jab tak tum hum mile na the
*pari*
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itnii baada-noshii karne de k hojaye halaq kHuu.n-chakaa.n*
kahin nikal jaaye gham-e-zindagi sa.ng-e-kHuu.n-baar**
* blood drenched
**with oozing blood
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Bahot khoob thought hai jij lekin misra e saani meiN thodi confusion hai mujhe
did you mean 'kii' or 'kaash' nikal jaaye gham-e-zindagi sang-e-khooN-baar"
kyunki 'kahin' word ek confusion create kar raha hai i think ap ek wish kar rahe haiN ki 'hopefully sorrows of life would come out with the oozing of blood' so according to my limited khowledge i think 'kahin' ko symbolically bhi use nahiN kar sakte i wud really like zarraji's opinion on this...aur jij hats off what a thought brilliant
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Thanx a lot saali sahiba....u raised a good point...i would also like to know zarraa sahabs opinion on this...according to my limited knowledge kahii.n... also means ke or of and lest. I think you are hinting at kahiin as a symbol for place ...which is not what I meant here.Anyways, respected Aadeil *& Zarraa sahabs viewpoints are much awaited.
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sab se pehle to Ananth sahab ke is sher par beshumaar daad !!
waah waah waah waah waah waah !!! khoon ke saath gham nikal jaaye !! kis qadar pur-asar aur ba-lutf (shayari ke hisaab se ba-lutf ) bayaan hai !! dher saaree daad is par.
waaqayee behad hi dilchasp guftagoo ho rahi hai N@zneen ji aur Ananth sahab ke beech. to pehle ye state kar lete hain ki charcha hain ki charcha ka mudda kya hai*
charcha ka mudda jo mujhe lag raha hai, wo hai lafz "kaheen" ka istemaal ek mohavara ke andar, jo mohaavara hai "kaheen nikal jaaye" aur sher mein jis ka talluq "gham" (ke nikalne) se hai.
urdu zabaan mein waaqayee n jaane kitne jumle aur mohaavare hain to non-linear hain, jin ko logically analyse naheen kiya ja sakta. aise anginat mohavare hum aam logon par jitne ayaan hain us se ziyaada nihaan koyee ustaad-e-zabaan ho to shayad wo hi definitive taur par keh sakta hai ki kaun se alfaaz ko mohavare ki tarah istemaal kiya ja sakta hai kin circumstances mein aur kin ko naheen. hum taalib-e-zabaan to bas aam bolchaal mein jo suna hai usee ke basis par kuchh keh sakte hain ya andaaza laga sakte hain.
jis mohaavare par hum guftagoo kar rahein hain, us ke main ne kuchh hi related versions sune ya dekhe hain, par exactly aisa version abhi tak naheen dekha hai jo Ananth sahab ke sher mein aaya hai. This does not mean ki wo ghalat hai, bas itna ki ab tak meri nazron mein naheen aaya hai.
jo related contexts main ne dekhe hain wo is tarah se hain ...
"kaheen X nikal na jaaye" ... ye aam mohavara hai ... is ke andar "kaheen" ka ehsaas kuchh kuchh "ke" ke jaisa hota hai ... lekin is mohaavare ke maayne Ananth ji ke sher ke maayne se bilkul ulte aur opposite hain.
"kaheen nikal jaaye" us haalat mein dekha hai jahaan par ye apne literal meaning yaani "goes some where" ke kareeb hai, par symbolic ya rhetorical*
behad maazrat se arz kar raha hoon ki is muamale mein definitive haan ya na naheen keh pa raha hoon. meri nazron mein aisa istemaal abhi tak naheen aaya hai, par*agar koyee member is par roshni daal sakein ya koyee misaal ya example de sakein to meherbaanee hogi.
bas ek chhoti si baat aur. Ananth sahab, lafz "khoon-baar" mujhe ek adjective sa jaan parh raha hai, apni limited knowledge ke daayre mein. aap agar use as adjective maan kar nazr-e-saani kar lein agar aap ko theek lage and decide accordingly.
aur ek baar phir Ananath sahab aur N@zneen ji ka shukriya ki unhone ek bahaut hi achchha learning based discussion chherh ke is activity ka sahi maqsad haasil karne ka kaam kiya hai.
meri sabhi members jo is activity ko follow kar rahe hain un se appeal karta hoon ki agar is muamale par roshni daal sakein to humein seekhne ka mauka mulega.
maiN rehnuma ke kahe raastoN se door raha
mera maqaam sada manziloN se door raha
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6th September 2014, 11:23 PM
doston ... aadaab
ye jo is maheene main is activity ko poora waqt naheen de pa raha hoon, us ke liye main behad pashemaan hoon.
to bas isee baat se is hafte ka lafz bhi banta hai ....PASHEMAAN
the word "pashemaan" has related but slightly varied meanings, like ashamed, embarrassed, regretful, repentant etc.
a related word to it is "pashemaanee" which means shame, regret, repentance etc.
lafz "pashemaan" ke aakhir ke "n" ko pronounce bhi kar sakte hain ya "aa" ke baad nasal sound bhi laga sakte hain.
to mashq-e-sukhan ke is daur mein aap "pashemaan", "pashemaanee" ya aur koyee lafz ya jumla jo is se derived hai,us par apne qalaam keh sakte hain. meter, form, style, number kisi ki bandish naheen .... ji khol ke apne ehsaasaat aur apne fan ka izhaar kijiye, bas lafz "pashemaan" ya "pashemaanee" ka zikr zaroor kijiyega
dekhte haiN lafz "pashemaan" aur "pashemaanee" par ustaad shoraa ke kuchh pur-asar aashaar ...
ki mere qatl ke baad us ne jafa se tauba
haay us zood-pashemaaN ka pashemaaN hona
- Ghalib
jee meiN jo aatee hai kar guzro kaheeN aisa n ho
kal pashemaaN hoN ki kyooN dil ka kaha maana naheeN
- Faraaz
chashm pur-nam zulf aashufta nigaaheiN be-qaraar
is pashemaanee ke sadqe maiN pashemaaN ho gaya
- Jigar Muradabadi
aql se haasil huwee kya kya pashemaanee mujhe
ishq jab dene laga taaleem-e-naadaanee mujhe
- Hasrat Mohani
husn ko naahaq pashemaaN kar diya
ai junooN ye bhi koyee andaaz hai
- Majaaz
aata hai baad-e-zulm tumheeN ko to rehem bhi
apne kiye se dil meiN pashemaaN tumheeN to ho
- Daagh Dehlevi
ibteda se inteha tak haal un se keh to dooN
fikr ye hai aur jo keh kar pashemaanee huwee
- Daagh Dehlevi
dushmanoN se pashemaan hona parha
dostoN ka khuloos aazmaane ke baad
- Khumaar Baarabankvi
wo aaye haiN is taur se khalvat meinN mere paas
jaise ke n aane pe pashemaan rahe haiN
- Mahinder Singh Bedi Sahar
ahd-e-vafa yaaroN se nibhaayeiN naaz-e-hareefaaN haNs ke uthaayeiN
jab humeiN armaaN tum se siva tha ab haiN pashemaaN tum se ziyaada
- Majrooh Sultaanpuri
maut wo din bhi dikhaaye mujhe jis din "faanee"
zindagi apni jafaaoN pe pashemaaN ho jaaye
- Faanee Badaayuni
tujh ko ruswa n kiya khud bhi pashemaaN n huwe
ishq ki rasm ko is tar'ha nibhaaya hum ne
- Shahrayaar (film Umraao Jaan mein aayee ki ghazal se)
to chaliye, lafz "pashemaan" kab se raah dekh raha hai ki kab aap use apne qalaam meiN la kar us ki "pashemaanee" door kareNge
ye silsila hum jaaree rakkheNge agle 8 din tak, yaani 14th Sept, raat 9:00 PM India time ya 3:30 PM*GMT tak
dheron duaoN ke saath
zarraa
maiN rehnuma ke kahe raastoN se door raha
mera maqaam sada manziloN se door raha
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7th September 2014, 11:29 AM
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sab se pehle to Ananth sahab ke is sher par beshumaar daad !!
waah waah waah waah waah waah !!! khoon ke saath gham nikal jaaye !! kis qadar pur-asar aur ba-lutf (shayari ke hisaab se ba-lutf ) bayaan hai !! dher saaree daad is par.
waaqayee behad hi dilchasp guftagoo ho rahi hai N@zneen ji aur Ananth sahab ke beech. to pehle ye state kar lete hain ki charcha hain ki charcha ka mudda kya hai*
charcha ka mudda jo mujhe lag raha hai, wo hai lafz "kaheen" ka istemaal ek mohavara ke andar, jo mohaavara hai "kaheen nikal jaaye" aur sher mein jis ka talluq "gham" (ke nikalne) se hai.
urdu zabaan mein waaqayee n jaane kitne jumle aur mohaavare hain to non-linear hain, jin ko logically analyse naheen kiya ja sakta. aise anginat mohavare hum aam logon par jitne ayaan hain us se ziyaada nihaan koyee ustaad-e-zabaan ho to shayad wo hi definitive taur par keh sakta hai ki kaun se alfaaz ko mohavare ki tarah istemaal kiya ja sakta hai kin circumstances mein aur kin ko naheen. hum taalib-e-zabaan to bas aam bolchaal mein jo suna hai usee ke basis par kuchh keh sakte hain ya andaaza laga sakte hain.
jis mohaavare par hum guftagoo kar rahein hain, us ke main ne kuchh hi related versions sune ya dekhe hain, par exactly aisa version abhi tak naheen dekha hai jo Ananth sahab ke sher mein aaya hai. This does not mean ki wo ghalat hai, bas itna ki ab tak meri nazron mein naheen aaya hai.
jo related contexts main ne dekhe hain wo is tarah se hain ...
"kaheen X nikal na jaaye" ... ye aam mohavara hai ... is ke andar "kaheen" ka ehsaas kuchh kuchh "ke" ke jaisa hota hai ... lekin is mohaavare ke maayne Ananth ji ke sher ke maayne se bilkul ulte aur opposite hain.
"kaheen nikal jaaye" us haalat mein dekha hai jahaan par ye apne literal meaning yaani "goes some where" ke kareeb hai, par symbolic ya rhetorical*
behad maazrat se arz kar raha hoon ki is muamale mein definitive haan ya na naheen keh pa raha hoon. meri nazron mein aisa istemaal abhi tak naheen aaya hai, par*agar koyee member is par roshni daal sakein ya koyee misaal ya example de sakein to meherbaanee hogi.
bas ek chhoti si baat aur. Ananth sahab, lafz "khoon-baar" mujhe ek adjective sa jaan parh raha hai, apni limited knowledge ke daayre mein. aap agar use as adjective maan kar nazr-e-saani kar lein agar aap ko theek lage and decide accordingly.
aur ek baar phir Ananath sahab aur N@zneen ji ka shukriya ki unhone ek bahaut hi achchha learning based discussion chherh ke is activity ka sahi maqsad haasil karne ka kaam kiya hai.
meri sabhi members jo is activity ko follow kar rahe hain un se appeal karta hoon ki agar is muamale par roshni daal sakein to humein seekhne ka mauka mulega.
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Bohat bohat shukriya Zarraa sahab nawazish k liye...and as far as the discussion is concerned we shall wait for Aadeil sahabs views too before concluding anything on this topic
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
Jab tak tum hum mile na the
*pari*
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7th September 2014, 11:33 AM
tu hai ghareeb to kya na ho pashemaan
tera dil bada hai ameeron ki tijoriyon se
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
Jab tak tum hum mile na the
*pari*
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7th September 2014, 05:43 PM
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tu hai ghareeb to kya na ho pashemaan
tera dil bada hai ameeron ki tijoriyon se
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Waahhhh !!!!!! Bahaut khoob Ananth sahab !!
maiN rehnuma ke kahe raastoN se door raha
mera maqaam sada manziloN se door raha
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7th September 2014, 05:47 PM
qatl ke lagta hai mere is qadar charche huwe
ke tamaashaayee pashemaaN saNg qaatil ke huwe
- zarraa
maiN rehnuma ke kahe raastoN se door raha
mera maqaam sada manziloN se door raha
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8th September 2014, 07:04 AM
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Waahhhh !!!!!! Bahaut khoob Ananth sahab !!
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Bohat bohat shukriya Zarraa sahab
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
Jab tak tum hum mile na the
*pari*
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8th September 2014, 07:06 AM
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qatl ke lagta hai mere is qadar charche huwe
ke tamaashaayee pashemaaN saNg qaatil ke huwe
- zarraa
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WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!!!! Zarra sahab...bohat khoob...dheron daad
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
Jab tak tum hum mile na the
*pari*
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8th September 2014, 07:09 AM
tere mustaqil* faislon se hi teri hayaat hai
kabhi pashemaanii** na karna intikhaab*** k baad
*firm
**regret
***choice
Your life is all about your firm decisions....never regret after u have made a choice.
Mohabbat ke ye silsile na the
Jab tak tum hum mile na the
*pari*
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8th September 2014, 10:45 AM
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WAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! kya baat hai...bohat khoob Aadeil sahab .... gar aaise ho jaaye .....dheron daad
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Waaaaahhhhhhh! bahot khoob....sahi kaha aadil ranj-o-sitam ki ek wajah baadaa bhi hai
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aap dono kaa bahot bahot shukriya....
aur Ananthji, sahi kahaa, AGAR....... kaash..... ye lafz bahot maaiyne rakhte haiN...
ख़ुदा परेशां तेरी बला से तेरे सितम से तेरे अधम से
अगर हसीँ होते ज़ुल्म तेरे तू भी तो कुछ शर्मसार होता
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8th September 2014, 10:55 AM
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tu hai ghareeb to kya na ho pashemaan
tera dil bada hai ameeron ki tijoriyon se
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wahhhh! kia baat hai sir.... be-had umdaaH khayaal.
zamaanay ki haqeeqat .. aik kaDwi haqeeqat.. dherooN daad....
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Originally Posted by ananthpak
tere mustaqil* faislon se hi teri hayaat hai
kabhi pashemaanii** na karna intikhaab*** k baad
*firm
**regret
***choice
Your life is all about your firm decisions....never regret after u have made a choice.
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waaahh! Ananth sir.. yeHi zindagi ki sacchai hai ..
bohat bohat khoob... aap ne aik sabQ diya hai .. ke zindagi aise
guzaarni chahiye...... hats off!
*hSn* : parStaar
tumhara shoq dekha to ghazal hum ne nazar kar di!
kabhi fursat meiN sun lena, bohat ashaar baqi haiN... ("Asad")
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8th September 2014, 10:57 AM
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qatl ke lagta hai mere is qadar charche huwe
ke tamaashaayee pashemaaN saNg qaatil ke huwe
- zarraa
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waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhh!
kia kehne Zarraa saheb... kia khoob takkhyul baandha hai...
mazaa aa gaya.. daad beshumaar-an-ginat-o-behisaab........
*hSn* : parStaar
tumhara shoq dekha to ghazal hum ne nazar kar di!
kabhi fursat meiN sun lena, bohat ashaar baqi haiN... ("Asad")
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