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2nd February 2013, 04:13 PM

shid2 d1 te2 dar2 d1

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2122???

shid2 da1 te2 dard2......not sure??

or may be

2122 1

shid2 da1 te2 dar2 d1


can it also be?

shid2 dat2 e1 dard2......???

no it wont be coorect, kyuNki us 'e'(izafat) ko aapko us se pehle waale akshar pe hi lena hoga, aap use akela nahiN rakh sakte haiN... jahaan tak meri knowledge jaati hai, baaNki yahaan bahut ustaad shoharaaoN haiN, to vo behtar batayenge...



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3rd February 2013, 10:49 PM

Thanks taish sahab......................................

How about raaz -e -dil ?......

Is it 222 ?....




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4th February 2013, 12:46 AM

of course, but it was

raa-2 ze-2 dil-2

so u cant take that e(Izafat0) alone, that is the only thing...

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of course, but it was

raa-2 ze-2 dil-2

so u cant take that e(Izafat0) alone, that is the only thing...

neways thanks for understanding, carry on...

Jee..actually confusion tou ayse words me hi hoti hai jab likhtay waqt kuch aur likhtay haiN, aur break kartay waqt samajh nahi aata kaisay break kareiN...

Anyways thanks for replying...




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sachaayi ye hai mohtarma ki lafz todne meN bahut aasaani hai, bas mushkilaat shuruaati waqt meN, har line ko usi metre me rakhne ki hoti hai, kyuNki kayi logoN ko lagta hai ki is se ehsashoN meN kami aati hai, bt believe me, thr is nothing like writing in beh'r n recitying it in full flow... neways the leasure was all mine.... likhti raheN...



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of course, but it was

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Aadaab !
taiSh saHb ,
appne opper kaha ke izafat ko akeley naheeN liya jaa saktaa , ager app is per wiZaHat fermaa daiN to smajhny mai aasaanee ho gee werna to lafzon ke taqtee' kee jung roz kee tereH haarty hee rahieNge hum ke kis lafz ko kab or kahaaN giraana hai or kab laina hai .

raa ze dil = faae'lun (2 1 2) kiya yeh Soorat bhee mumkin hai is lafz ke liye ?


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Jee mujhe bhi doubt hai....kya hum raaz-e-dil ko 212 le saktay haiN?.....




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mujeeb sahab salaam,

raaz-e-dil= Ra-2, ze-1/2, dil-2

janaab yahaaN 'z' pe a ki maatra hai, jaise ki karte meN hota hai, to hum ise ek ya do, dono pe le sakte haiN... baaNki rules ke hisaab se hi haiN, jo puraane basic rules haiN...



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mere khyaal se Raa ze Dil ki takhti aur behr yoon hogii...

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gaur kareN... "ze" lafz pe zor kamm padd raha hai...


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mere khyaal se Raa ze Dil ki takhti aur behr yoon hogii...

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gaur kareN... "ze" lafz pe zor kamm padd raha hai...
sameer bhaii jis tereH taiSh saHb fermaa rahy haiN keh dono SoortieN mumkin haiN

jis tereH humne shab e furqat kee taqtee' kee shayad is kee bhee ker sakty hoN .

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shabe furqat = mafaa e'elun ( 1 2 2 2)
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mere khyaal se Raa ze Dil ki takhti aur behr yoon hogii...

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gaur kareN... "ze" lafz pe zor kamm padd raha hai...

shaad saahab aapki is baat se maiN naitefaaqi rakhta huN, 'ze' pe katayi bhi zor kam nahin pada hai, aur yahaaN 1 ya 2 dono hi liye jaa sakte haiN, kyuNki 'ae' ki maatra aayegi, aur ye flexiblity allowed hai... rahi baat kam zor padne ki, to kyuNki izafat se do lafzoN ko jod jaata hai, to laazmi hai ki kisi bhi lafz ke beech meN aane wali aawaaz pe generally kam zor padta hai... Umeed hai ki aap baat ko samajh gaye hoNge...



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shaad saahab aapki is baat se maiN naitefaaqi rakhta huN, 'ze' pe katayi bhi zor kam nahin pada hai, aur yahaaN 1 ya 2 dono hi liye jaa sakte haiN, kyuNki 'ae' ki maatra aayegi, aur ye flexiblity allowed hai... rahi baat kam zor padne ki, to kyuNki izafat se do lafzoN ko jod jaata hai, to laazmi hai ki kisi bhi lafz ke beech meN aane wali aawaaz pe generally kam zor padta hai... Umeed hai ki aap baat ko samajh gaye hoNge...

Agree.........................................

Raaze-dil ka "ze" flexible lafz hai........... aap ise dono suuratoN me istemaal kar sakte haiN..

jahaaN tak maine aise lafzoN ka istemaal dekhaa hai hai, to amooman iise "e" lafz pe kamm wazan ke saath hi istemaal hota huaa hi dekhaa hai.... lekin hamesha hi aisaa ho , ye bhi zaruri nahi...

kuch sher aap sab ki khidmat me peshh karna chahunga.. jisme "e" ka wazn 1 hi hai...


Ek baat aur kehnaa chahungaaa ke in sheron ko kehne ka matlab katai ye nahi hai ke khud ko sahi ya kisi ko ghalat saabit karuN... bas chahataa hoon ke jo maine dekhaa wo sab ke sath share karuN.. aur shayari ke baare me hum sab jitna jaan sakeN.. utnaa behtar.....


Raaz’e Dil Kyaa Hai Aur Bayaan Hai Kiyaa
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nigaahe.n kahataii hai.n sab raaz-e-dil zubaa.N kii tarah

jalaa ke daaG-e-muhabbat ne dil ko Khaak kiyaa
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kyo.nkar huaa hai faash zamaane pe kyaa kahe.n
vo raaz-e-dil jo kah na sake raazadaa.N se ham

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bas inhi sab ki wajah see maine yooN kahaa... lekin ye bhi maanta hoon ke hameshaa aisaa honaa laazmi nahii....

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Bhai takhallus hai mera.......

Kya options they?.......bhool gayi...........:P




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Bhai takhallus hai mera.......

Kya options they?.......bhool gayi...........:P
haaye Allaaah ....... takhallus....................................

muaafi janaabe aali hum bhool gaye they ke hum shaayraae-hindustaan se mukhaatib hain.........

wo maine nickname wali thread pe bataae they, wapas padh lena... ab yad mat dilaao warna wo thread fir aage badhaaun.....

accha bataao shoaib ka kya wazn hai............. ???


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haaye Allaaah ....... takhallus....................................

muaafi janaabe aali hum bhool gaye they ke hum shaayraae-hindustaan se mukhaatib hain.........

wo maine nickname wali thread pe bataae they, wapas padh lena... ab yad mat dilaao warna wo thread fir aage badhaaun.....

accha bataao shoaib ka kya wazn hai............. ???
Aaya tha kuchh dekhne par tumhara reply padh kar ab bhi hansi aa gayi bhai. I hope you won't mind

Waise bahut achhcha lafz aaya hai

shaayra-e-hindustaan

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Aaya tha kuchh dekhne par tumhara reply padh kar ab bhi hansi aa gayi bhai. I hope you won't mind

Waise bahut achhcha lafz aaya hai

shaayra-e-hindustaan

Iski taqtee keejiye
ye hamari khushnaseebi hai janaab jo aap ko hamaari baat pasand aayi, aur do ghadee ko hi sahii chehre pe muskaan to aai... aur bhai ghar bhi aapka hai jab chahen aayen.. jo chahe padhen...

waise agar aap takhtii karte to mujhe khushi hotii... aur main chalo kar bhi doon to pata nahi aap kab aao aur kab padhoo.. so

what to say... tum jab bhi aao ye kaam ab tum pe chhoDa dost.... takhtii kar ke zaroor batana hamaare doston ko ke u r now shaayre-hindustaaN.....

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ye hamari khushnaseebi hai janaab jo aap ko hamaari baat pasand aayi, aur do ghadee ko hi sahii chehre pe muskaan to aai... aur bhai ghar bhi aapka hai jab chahen aayen.. jo chahe padhen...

Behad shukriya bhai, aapka khuloos hi dosti ko baandhe rakhta hai. Rahi baat ghar ki to mai'n chup hi hu'n.

waise agar aap takhtii karte to mujhe khushi hotii... aur main chalo kar bhi doon to pata nahi aap kab aao aur kab padhoo.. so

Ab is ke liye mu'aafi chaahta hu'n aapse kyunki pahle taqtii ke liye poochhe gaye lafz par nazar hi nahi'n gayi thi. Jawaab na dene ki yahi wajah thi.

what to say... tum jab bhi aao ye kaam ab tum pe chhoDa dost.... takhtii kar ke zaroor batana hamaare doston ko ke u r now shaayre-hindustaaN.....

Kis lafz ki taqtii karni hai bhai. Kuch samjha nahi'n mujhe.

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21st November 2013, 09:35 AM

Zidd saab,
Aapka ye article behad saaf aur sunder hai. Bahot hi achchhi aur aasaan tariqe se aapne beh'r ki samajh aur isska importance samjhaya hai.

Me sirf itna add karna chahunga ki, newbies ke liye ye aur bhi aasaan hoga agar we Zidd saab ki bataaee beh'r pe gaano'n ko gungunaae (humming), jaise hum aksar apne pasandida gane karte hain.

Bahot hi khub article rahaa janaab.



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Doston ,

Kyonki main behn seekhne ki taraf chal para hun aur Zid sahib ke article se fayda uthane ki koshish ker raha huN .

Jaise ki Vikas hai ne shuru mein kaha ki behr mein likhna aane ke liye shaboN ka torna ya taktee pe giraft hona pehla step hai ..

Kuch samay pehle Mst bhai , sameer shad aur madhu ji se is pehloo pe baat hui thi , aur mast bhai ke tutorials audio clips mein recorded haiN mere phone pe , main use refeence ke liye use kerta rahunga..

Baki mujhe kuch aisa samajh meiN aya hai ki agar aapko shabodn ki taktee aati hai tau aapko bus un shabdon (ehsasoN) ko behr meiN baithana aasan ho jata hai

MaiN taktee pe maharat haasil kerne ke liye poori koshish karoonga ...abhi sirf 3 out of 9 pages per paya hoon , kafee interesting lag raha hai .

Aage aage koshish jari rahegi aur kahin dikkat hui tau learned members jin ko behr aati hai , unse guzarish hai ki thori bahut madad kerte rahein .

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bahut bahut shubh kaamnaaen aapke prayaas ke liye Sanjay saahab.... ham duaa karenge aap jald apne maqqsad me kaamyaab hon.... aur main koshish karungaa ke haazir rahun jab bhi aapko meree zaruurt mahsoos ho.... shukriyaa

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Namaskar sanjay ji..khushi huyi aapko yahaan dekhkar...sdc se jo bhi thoda bahut seekha hai maine.. main koshish karoongi aapse baant sakoon...agar meri zaroorat ho to zaroor kahiyega...
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