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Post Padhiyega zuroor - 16th February 2010, 11:04 AM

aadaab dosto,

maine kai baar gaur kiya hai ki hum log likhte waqt kai buniyaadi galatiyaN karte haiN, jaise ki ‘hai’ aur haiN’ ke istemaal meiN, “z” aur “j” ke istemaal meiN…mujhe khud ko koi zyada ilm nahi hai, lekin aksar kuch galatiyaN aisi hoti haiN jinke kaaran padhte padhte zyaqa kharaab ho jaata hai….aur achha kalaam hone ke bawjood maza nahi aaata padhne meiN….kuch galatiyaN jo aksar ki jaati haiN maiN i’s thread ke zariye bataana chahunga…aur umm’eed karunga ki agar kisi bhi dost ko i’s se zyada ya behtar tariqa aata ho to wo yahaN bataye….urdu zabaaN hi kuch aisi hai ki halke se her-pher se mayane badal jaate haiN jaise ki…
majboor ko aksar maine mazboor likhte dekha hai, majboor ka matlab hota hai helpless jabki mazboor ka matlab hota hai something written. to dekha aapne ki kitna farq pad jata hai.

“hai” aur “haiN”:- hum meiN se bahut se dost i’n dono meiN farq nahi samjhte.
“hai” wahaN istemaal hota hai jahaN ek cheez ya aadmi ki baat ho aur “haiN” wahaN istemaal kiya jata hai jahaN par se zyada cheezoN ya logoN ki baat ho…jaise ki…
wo kya kar raha “hai”?
we kya kar rahe “haiN”?

roman script meiN hindi ya urdu likhte waqt, capital letter tab likha jaata hai jab kahiN par aadhe alphabet ki zaroorat ho ya ki jahaN par behad halki aawaaz ho u’s alphabet ki.

dosto neeche kuch aksar istemaal meiN aane wale lafz jinme “z” ya “j” ka istemaal hota hai aur jinhe hum log aksar galat likhte haiN likh raha hooN…..



galat……………………....sahi

jindagi………………... zindagi
zanzeer……………... zanjeer
samzh/samj…………….samjh
wazood……………......wajud/wajood
khanzar……………......khanjar
majboot…………….....mazboot
mazboor……………....majboor
wajan…………………...wazn
tuzhe/tuze……………..tujhe
muze……......................mujhe
jalim…………………..zalim
jajbaat/zazbaat ………..jazbaat
uzaala…………………ujaala
jakham ………………..zakhm
naraaj…………………naraaz
wazeh…………………wajeh/wajhe
najar…………………..nazar
jamaana……………….zamaana
zigar…………………...jigar
najariya………………..nazariya
julfoN…………………zulfoN
gazare…………………gajare
najdeek……………….nazdeek
jameen ……………….zameen
jaroori………………..zaroori
aarjoo………………...aarzoo
jehan…………………zehn
janaaja/zanaaza………janaaza


aur bhi kai alfaaz haiN, ho sakta hai ki likhte waqt maiN bhi galat likh gaya houN, agar ho to bataiyega….umm’eed hai ki mere yuN likhna ka matlab galat nahi liya jayega aur i’se amal meiN lane ki koshish ki jayegi….
duaoN ke saath ijaazat....



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16th February 2010, 11:15 AM

Superb Vikram ji.......very nice and informative post...mere zehan me bhi yeH baat kayi baar aayi, per waqt ki kami ki wajah se ,maiN likh nahi payi , good to see this post here, ummid hai aapki is post se hamare kayi members fayda uthayenge...

Waqay bohat kharaab lagta hai jab koi lafz ko sahi pronounce nahi karte...yeh mujhse behtar aur kaun samajh sakta hai, mujhe bhi kuch dost "Jainy" kehte hain kabhi kabhi,...i always keep correcting them......

Khair aapki is post ke liye reps++...(hmm looks like u will have to wait..)




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Superb Vikram ji.......very nice and informative post...mere zehan me bhi yeH baat kayi baar aayi, per waqt ki kami ki wajah se ,maiN likh nahi payi , good to see this post here, ummid hai aapki is post se hamare kayi members fayda uthayenge...

Waqay bohat kharaab lagta hai jab koi lafz ko sahi pronounce nahi karte...yeh mujhse behtar aur kaun samajh sakta hai, mujhe bhi kuch dost "Jainy" kehte hain kabhi kabhi,...i always keep correcting them......

Khair aapki is post ke liye reps++...(hmm looks like u will have to wait..)
shukriya zainy ji....
kai baar socha tha maine ki likhuN lekin phir maiN bhi kisi na kisi kaaran se likh nahi paaya....aaj socha ki likh hi daluN.....
reps dene ki sochi aapne yahi bahut hai.....bauht bahut shukriya....


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Vikram Ji....iss valueable post ke liye aapka bahut bahut shukriya....isse yaha sabhi naye aur purane likhne waalon ko zaroor laabh hoga.....aur mujhe toh zaroor hoga....ek baar phir se ...Thanks....vikram bhai...!




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Vikram Ji....iss valueable post ke liye aapka bahut bahut shukriya....isse yaha sabhi naye aur purane likhne waalon ko zaroor laabh hoga.....aur mujhe toh zaroor hoga....ek baar phir se ...Thanks....vikram bhai...!
naresh saaheb, agar meri post se aapko ya kisi ko bhi fayada ho to mujhe behad khushi milegi...aapka reply dekh kar achha laga.....agar yeh thread kisi ke liye fayedemaNd saabit hota hai to maiN i'se update karta rahunga....jo bhi kuch mujhe maloom hai ya jo bhi kuch maiN naya seekhuNga.....

aap achha likhte haiN, aur maiN umm'eed karta hooN ki aap yahaN ya kisi naye thread par apna i'lm zaroor hum sab ke saath share kareN...maiN aur dostoN se bhi, jo ki achha likhte haiN aur jinhe samjh hai shayari ki, darkhwaaSt karuta hooN ki apne i'lm ko hum sab ke saath share kareN....
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Aapse ek guzarish hai vikram ji.... urdu me kuch words "kh"...aur "q" se shuru ya khatam hote haiN.......FOR EX:"KHARZ" OR "QARZ"..."KHILA" OR "QILA"...

I sometimes get confused with these words,do let me know the details, where to use what,if you have any information about it....

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Aapse ek guzarish hai vikram ji.... urdu me kuch words "kh"...aur "q" se shuru ya khatam hote haiN.......FOR EX:"KHARZ" OR "QARZ"..."KHILA" OR "QILA"...

I sometimes get confused with these words,do let me know the details, where to use what,if you have any information about it....

Thanks..........
as with most of the scripts, alphabets mainly depict sounds. This forms the basis for formation of words. The Roman Urdu script is a compromise between accuracy and comfort.
I have a very limited knowledge as the language is too vast to be learnt as a hobby; therefore it is quite possible that I may leave room for fallacy. One more reason for saying so is that I have never learnt Urdu in a formal way, everything that I know is according to my understanding of other languages.

“kh” is a compound consonant and is pronounced as in English we pronounce “Scottish” or as we pronounce “khargosh”, “khat”, “khel” etc.
“q” in English language is followed by “u” as of necessity but it is not same in case of Urdu, I use “q” where the words sound similar to “q” and are sounded at the back of your throat i.e. qubuul, qila etc. “k” does not find a mention in the urdu language, there is a .(dot) beneath the alphabet, that forms a coarse sound from the back of your throat, but generally I have seen it being used at places where I would have used “q” and I think it is not wrong, according to my opinion these two alphabets can be interchanged at most of the places.

I am not sure whether this would be of any help to you or not but if it did not let me know I’ll try it once more with different examples. Practice is the one and only mantra….


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Vikram Bhai,,

Aap ki yeh baatieN mujhe boht achii lagi,
aap ne bikul sahi kiya...

Kyun k, bajaaye is k "members" ki posts
meiN un ki khaamiyaaN nikaali jayen,
yahan sahi alfaaz waazeh kar diye jayeN.....

Good work... Congratulation...

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Vikram Bhai,,

Aap ki yeh baatieN mujhe boht achii lagi,
aap ne bikul sahi kiya...

Kyun k, bajaaye is k "members" ki posts
meiN un ki khaamiyaaN nikaali jayen,
yahan sahi alfaaz waazeh kar diye jayeN.....

Good work... Congratulation...

Regardz,,
Thanks a lot Hassan bhai....
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good one Vikram.... dusro ka pata nahi par mai bhi kaafi ghalatiyan karti hu... ab aapki is post ki wajah se meri ghalatiyon me kaafi hadd tak sudhaar aayega... shukriya....khush rahiye...


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A note on pronunciation
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(a) Vowel pronunciation key.


'a' as 'u' in cut

'aa' as 'a' in car
'i' as 'i' in fit
'ee' as 'ee' in feel
'u' as 'u' in put
'oo' as 'oo' in pool
'e' as 'e' in bed
'ai' as 'ei' in neighbour
'o' as 'o' in mode
'au' as 'ow' in how

(b) Words ending with an 'a' should be pronounced as 'a' in 'car'.


Examples : 'kya' = what

'nateeja' = result

(c) Guttural sounds (capital letters) :


Examples : 'GH' as in 'GHam' = sorrow

'KH' as in 'KHayaal' = thought

(d) Use of 'N' for nasal sounds :


Examples : 'maiN' = me

'meiN' = in
'aasmaaN' = sky

(e) Note the distinction in usage between :


(i) 'i' and 'ee'


Examples : 'nigaah' = sight

'nishaan' = mark/sign
'teer' = arrow
'hakeem' = physician/doctor

(ii) 'k' and 'q'


Examples : 'shauq' = fondness/desire

'qaabil' = worthy
'kamar' = waist
'KHaak' = dust/ashes

(iii) small and capital letters


Examples : 't' as 't' in with

'T' as 't' in metal



Vikram sahab I am adding the above information to your thread..Hope it might be of some help to our members...




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good one Vikram.... dusro ka pata nahi par mai bhi kaafi ghalatiyan karti hu... ab aapki is post ki wajah se meri ghalatiyon me kaafi hadd tak sudhaar aayega... shukriya....khush rahiye...
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zainy ji, aapka i's thread par information add karna qabil-e-taareef hai...
aapka bahut bahut shukriya jo aapne itne puraane thread ko yaad rakha...


'E Taahire Laahuti!!!
Uss Rizk Se Tau Maut Bhali
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Tere Parwaaz MeiN Kotaahi....



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aadaab dosto,

maine kai baar gaur kiya hai ki hum log likhte waqt kai buniyaadi galatiyaN karte haiN, jaise ki ‘hai’ aur haiN’ ke istemaal meiN, “z” aur “j” ke istemaal meiN…mujhe khud ko koi zyada ilm nahi hai, lekin aksar kuch galatiyaN aisi hoti haiN jinke kaaran padhte padhte zyaqa kharaab ho jaata hai….aur achha kalaam hone ke bawjood maza nahi aaata padhne meiN….kuch galatiyaN jo aksar ki jaati haiN maiN i’s thread ke zariye bataana chahunga…aur umm’eed karunga ki agar kisi bhi dost ko i’s se zyada ya behtar tariqa aata ho to wo yahaN bataye….urdu zabaaN hi kuch aisi hai ki halke se her-pher se mayane badal jaate haiN jaise ki…
majboor ko aksar maine mazboor likhte dekha hai, majboor ka matlab hota hai helpless jabki mazboor ka matlab hota hai something written. to dekha aapne ki kitna farq pad jata hai.

“hai” aur “haiN”:- hum meiN se bahut se dost i’n dono meiN farq nahi samjhte.
“hai” wahaN istemaal hota hai jahaN ek cheez ya aadmi ki baat ho aur “haiN” wahaN istemaal kiya jata hai jahaN par se zyada cheezoN ya logoN ki baat ho…jaise ki…
wo kya kar raha “hai”?
we kya kar rahe “haiN”?

roman script meiN hindi ya urdu likhte waqt, capital letter tab likha jaata hai jab kahiN par aadhe alphabet ki zaroorat ho ya ki jahaN par behad halki aawaaz ho u’s alphabet ki.

dosto neeche kuch aksar istemaal meiN aane wale lafz jinme “z” ya “j” ka istemaal hota hai aur jinhe hum log aksar galat likhte haiN likh raha hooN…..



galat……………………....sahi

jindagi………………... zindagi
zanzeer……………... zanjeer
samzh/samj…………….samjh
wazood……………......wajud/wajood
khanzar……………......khanjar
majboot…………….....mazboot
mazboor……………....majboor
wajan…………………...wazan
tuzhe/tuze……………..tujhe
muze……......................mujhe
jalim…………………..zalim
jajbaat/zazbaat ………..jazbaat
uzaala…………………ujaala
jakham ………………..zakham
naraaj…………………naraaz
wazeh…………………wajeh/wajhe
najar…………………..nazar
jamaana……………….zamaana
zigar…………………...jigar
najariya………………..nazariya
julfoN…………………zulfoN
gazare…………………gajare
najdeek……………….nazdeek
jameen ……………….zameen
jaroori………………..zaroori
aarjoo………………...aarzoo
jehan…………………zehan
janaaja/zanaaza………janaaza


aur bhi kai alfaaz haiN, ho sakta hai ki likhte waqt maiN bhi galat likh gaya houN, agar ho to bataiyega….umm’eed hai ki mere yuN likhna ka matlab galat nahi liya jayega aur i’se amal meiN lane ki koshish ki jayegi….
duaoN ke saath ijaazat....

aadaab
vikram bhai
shaayad ki pahli baar aap se mokhaatab ho rahaa hun ? is liye thoree jhijhak ghaalib hai
bahar haal pahle to main aapko is mobaarak kaam pe mobaarak baad pesh kartaa hun dosrey ek do baat ki jaanib isharah karnaa chaahungaa
janaab urdu me jahaan ek jaanib imlaa aor talaffuz ka maamila hai jis ki jaanib yahaan aap ne ishaarah kiyaa hai waheen pe us ke wazn ka bhi mas"alah hai yahee khaas baat hai ki agar lafz ko sahee na likhaa ya parhaa ya baandha jaaye to ghazal ki bahr muta"ccir ho jaatee hai is liye meree khowaahish hai ki log is baat ki jaanib bhi dheyaan den ki lafz ka wazn bhi sahee rahe

aap ne yahaan pe jin alfaaz ko likhaa hai un me se 3 lafz bhi sahee nahi hain plz aap use durust kar len

zakham jabki sahee hai zakhm
wazan jabki sahee hai wazn
zehan jabki sahee hai zehn

is ke elaawah omooman main ne dekhaa hai ki log shakal kahte bhi hain aor ghazal me baandhte bhi hain jabki sahee hai ,, shakl ,,
ummeed ki kisee saahab ko meree baat naagawaar na guzree ho gee
main shukr zuzaar hun aap kaa aor zainy saahbah ka ki un ki wajh se aaj ye link mil gayaa
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aadaab
vikram bhai
shaayad ki pahli baar aap se mokhaatab ho rahaa hun ? is liye thoree jhijhak ghaalib hai
bahar haal pahle to main aapko is mobaarak kaam pe mobaarak baad pesh kartaa hun dosrey ek do baat ki jaanib isharah karnaa chaahungaa
janaab urdu me jahaan ek jaanib imlaa aor talaffuz ka maamila hai jis ki jaanib yahaan aap ne ishaarah kiyaa hai waheen pe us ke wazn ka bhi mas"alah hai yahee khaas baat hai ki agar lafz ko sahee na likhaa ya parhaa ya baandha jaaye to ghazal ki bahr muta"ccir ho jaatee hai is liye meree khowaahish hai ki log is baat ki jaanib bhi dheyaan den ki lafz ka wazn bhi sahee rahe

aap ne yahaan pe jin alfaaz ko likhaa hai un me se 3 lafz bhi sahee nahi hain plz aap use durust kar len

zakham jabki sahee hai zakhm
wazan jabki sahee hai wazn
zehan jabki sahee hai zehn

is ke elaawah omooman main ne dekhaa hai ki log shakal kahte bhi hain aor ghazal me baandhte bhi hain jabki sahee hai ,, shakl ,,
ummeed ki kisee saahab ko meree baat naagawaar na guzree ho gee
main shukr zuzaar hun aap kaa aor zainy saahbah ka ki un ki wajh se aaj ye link mil gayaa
doaaon ke saath
masood hassaas

Shukriyah Masood sahab,

Aapne jo ghaltiyaN batayi maine theek kar di hai, taaki koi aur yeh ghalti na kare....is baat ki itellah Vikram sahab ko abhi de deti huuN..

Waise yeh jo spelling mistakes haiN, iski wajah hai, roman editor,...hindi ya urdu se roman me tabdeel karne ke chakker meiN yeh ghaltiyaN dikhaayi de rahi haiN..

HalaNki jo log ghazal behr me likhte haiN, woh spelling ghalat hone ke bawjood, wazn sahi hi le rahe haiN...matlab pronounciation me ghalti nahi hai, sirf likhawat me ghalti hai..

khair ek baar phir aapka shukriyah, kahiN bhi koi ghalti nazar aaaye tou zarur bata dijiyega...taaki dusre members ko bhi isse faida ho....






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Wallaah bahot acchi peshkash aur bahot informative thread rahi hai aapki Vikram saab.....
hope hum logon ko lafzon ke talaffuz karne me behad aasani ho jaaegii ise padh kar...
its very good effort for beginners and new learners...

hope to see u soon here with some other exciting packages...

take care...

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