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ta 1 /rah 2

ye bhi sahi

tar 2 / ha1

dono usage me hai
ek aur baat batata hu..wazn kaise change hoga

kshitiz sahab ne bandha hai

tarah has( hamne seekha hai gulo ki tarah has kar milna)mere hisaab se sahi hai ...magar koi debate kar sakta hai

yaha........ta 1 / ra 1 / has 2( matlab 11)....

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tarah hasna ko aise karen ge fir
ta+ ra+has +na


aa2 ii X na X..

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a 1 / gar 2

galib sahab ka treatment dekhiye ik jagah 'agar ' ka

arkaan hai
1121/
ye 1 /na 1 / thi 2 / ha 1>>>>>maari kismat......
a 1 /ga 1 /rau 2 / r 1>>>>>jeete rahte.....

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a 1 / gar 2

galib sahab ka treatment dekhiye ik jagah 'agar ' ka

arkaan hai
1121/
ye 1 /na 1 / thi 2 / ha 1>>>>>maari kismat......
a 1 /ga 1 /rau 2 / r 1>>>>>jeete rahte.....

( kitni khoobi se agar ko teeen tukde me bandha !!!...)


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kya ye sirf r word ke saath hia ya

fir consonant ke saath vowel aye to aise mix kar dete haiN

koe-- ko-e

2 X

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kya ye sirf r word ke saath hia ya

fir consonant ke saath vowel aye to aise mix kar dete haiN

koe-- ko-e

2 X

mukaddar
( apka question samajh nahi aaya)

meaning likhna to bhul hi gaye hum log

koii=any, anyone, anybody , someone, somebody, some, few , somewhere about,

ko x/ ii x....hai na bahut kaam ka word?.....kahi bhi fit karo......koii tension nahi

muqaddar=fate , destiny ,appointed, ordain, destine, predetermine ,understood, implied , decree

mu 1 / qad 2 /dar 2



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( apka question samajh nahi aaya)

meaning likhna to bhul hi gaye hum log

koii=any, anyone, anybody , someone, somebody, some, few , somewhere about,

ko x/ ii x....hai na bahut kaam ka word?.....kahi bhi fit karo......koii tension nahi

muqaddar=fate , destiny ,appointed, ordain, destine, predetermine ,understood, implied , decree

mu 1 / qad 2 /dar 2



next>>>>>>>


gunaah= paap , sin , violation of law , Fault, offence, crime, guilt, vice,


maine kahi suna tha ki jab dono XX ho to , first wale ko 2 maan lete hai ...
clear kar deN .. ispe ... aisa koe logic hia kya

haan meaning bhi likhna hai ..

gunaah

gu/naah

1 2

kareena

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maine kahi suna tha ki jab dono XX ho to , first wale ko 2 maan lete hai ...
clear kar deN .. ispe ... aisa koe logic hia kya

haan meaning bhi likhna hai ..

gunaah

gu/naah

1 2

kareena

(style manner )
ka = 1

ree = 2

naa = 2

1 2 2

next = mulaazim




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maine kahi suna tha ki jab dono XX ho to , first wale ko 2 maan lete hai ...
clear kar deN .. ispe ... aisa koe logic hia kya

jab do takthe ka wazn xx establish ho hi gaya hai to jo chaho mann len....
ye sawaal hi nahi uTta

haan meaning bhi likhna hai ..

gunaah

gu/naah

1 2

do tarah se iski taktee hoti hai....word same hai

gu 1 / naa 2 / h1
gu 1 / nah 2.........dono sahi hai aur common usage me hai

lekin iski 11 ki bhi misaal maine dekhi hai( kisi ustaad ki),,,so

gu 1 / nah x bhi jayaz hai


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ka 1 / ree 2 / na x


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ka = 1

ree = 2

naa = 2

1 2 2

next = mulaazim
naresh sahab very good....bahut acche

mulaazim=servant , diligent , attentive , inseparable

mu 1 / laa 2 /zim 2
   
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how to ascertain wazn by using roman english script - 29th June 2010, 06:50 PM

people knowing only roman script can take the help of this post to ascertain wazn of syllables....
it is accurate to a great extent and uses roman script for ascertaining wazn.
( people not knowing urdu and/or devnagri script cheer up)



we will treat

‘a’ as in ‘akbar’,
‘i’ as in ‘ishq’,
‘u’ as in ‘uljhan’,
‘e’ as in ‘ek’ (‘ai’ and ‘ei’ should be treated as ‘e’),
‘o’ as in ‘bahaaro’,
‘aa’ as in ‘aaraam’,
‘ii’ as in ‘merii’ and
‘uu’ as in ‘juutaa’




An ‘a’, ‘i’ or ‘u’ by itself or after a consonant may most probably produce a short syllable (weight ‘1’).


examples

'a'

only vowel = agar
consonant + vowel = magar

'i'

only vowel = ilaaj
consonant + vowel = milaap

'u'

only consonant = udhar
consonent + vowel = sudhar






An ‘e’, ‘o’, ‘aa’, ‘ii’ or ‘uu’ by itself or after a consonant will probably produce a long syllable (weight ‘2’).

examples

'e'

only vowel = ekaant
consonant + vowel= bekaar

'o'

only vowel = oar
consonant + vowel = sona

'aa'

only vowel = aaraam
consonant + vowel = naadaan

'ii'

only vowel = iiccha
consonant + vowel = diivana

'uu'

only vowel = ulTa
consonant + vowel = juutaa


An ‘a’, ‘i’ or ‘u’ between two consonants or before a consonant will produce a long syllable (weight ‘2’).

'a'

consonant + vowel + consonant = rab, sab ,jab

'i'


consonant + vowel + consonant = dil, chil , mil

'u'

consonant + vowel + consonant = chub ,dukh



An 'e' and 'o' are flexible , any word ending with "e" or "o" then its weight can be taken as 1 or 2 depending upon the requirement..


examples = chupke chalte jaagate

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Zidd Sahab ! aapne vowel consonant ka acche se examples deke wazn ko samjhane ki koshish ki hai.....yeh tarika mujhe bahut pasand aaya.....

yeh seekhne waalon ke liye asaan rahega aur mafaad me bhi rahega....shukriya !




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ka 1 / ree 2 / na x


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kahiye= say

ka 1 / hi 1 / ye2

ka1 / hi 2 / ye 1

kah 2 / ye 1

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ka1 / hi 2 / ye 1

kah 2 / ye 1

kah 2 / ye 2....all can be used



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rakha..
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ra/kha
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rak-kha
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1 2
1X

aise likhoge to confusion ho jayega...koi ek likho bhai

na 1 / di x
nad 2 / di x



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nazaaraa

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12X

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ohh..sorry bhai...zara dikha nahi

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nazaaraa

na 1/ zaa 2 / ra X

12X

kya hum

1XX kar sakte haiN ?

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sahooliyat -- means ......comfort
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na 1/ zaa 2 / ra X

12X

kya hum

1XX kar sakte haiN ?

ise

next

sahooliyat -- means ......comfort
sa = 1

hoo = 2

li = x

ya = 1

t = 1

Next = Manzar (Seen) (Drishey)




YuuN Besabab Aansoo Aate NahiN
Lag Zaroor Koii Baat Dil Ko Rahii Hai ...

Fareb Kaa ChaDhtaa Bazaar Dekh
Insaaf Se Bastii Khaalii Ho Rahii Hai ...


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sa = 1

hoo = 2

li = x

ya = 1

t = 1

Next = Manzar (Seen)
naresh ji sahooliyat ka wazn shayed aysa hoga

sa.1 consonant+vovel= 1

hoo..2 consonant + vovel+ vovel= 2

li 1 ... li= consonant + vovel= 1

yat..2...yat= consonant+vovel+consonant=2

so sahooliyat or
sahuuliyat =1212,



manzar

man=2

zar-=2

manzar 22

next: sanam




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sanam = 1-2

sa= 1
nam = 2

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aap waqai ustad hai Zidd bhai........

sang

san= 2
G= 1
hence
sang = 2/1

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sang

san= 2
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mushrik= to share ( muslim religious sense me =infidel)

mush 2 / rik 2

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ta/raf

1 2


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1 2

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तरफ़ ........ तर्फ


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