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Mujeeb Sahab,
Namaskar aur Adaab . Pehle to main apka ka shurguzar hun ki aapne samay nikaal kar meri (so called) ghazal paree aur phir aap ne Maikash sahinb ka thread bhi attach kiya jo main pehle bhi par chuka hun aur kah sakta hun ki main thora 2 aware hun ab is subject ke bare mein
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Aadaab !
jaan ker Khushee huwee ke app is mazmoon ko peRh chuky haiN or seekhnee ke khuwahish mand haiN .
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..Maine Zid sahib ka behar ke uupar likha thread bhi para ( thora samajh me aya bakee nahin samajh saka).
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Zidd saHb apney app mai e'lm kar daryaa haiN , unse app bahut kuch seekh sakty haiN , awal to yehee kahoN ga ke kiyoN ke aik saath sab kuch seekhnaa kaafi kathin balkeh namumkin nazar aany lagtaa hai . appko jitna smajh aayaa ussey zehn nasheen rakhiye or jo naheeN smajh aaya usse doobara smajhny kee koshish kijiye , aur waisy bhee zidd saHb active member haiN to app direct un se bhi sawaal pooch sakty haiN jo smajh naheeN aa rahaa appkoo , app yaqeen kijiyee zidd saHb ko appki madad kerne mai beHad khushee ho gee or app ko woh mazeed asaan tareeqy se samjhaa daiNge .
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Main shayri ki pathshala mein bhi aap logon ko follow kar raha hun , per kya karun
urdu zubaan ke kayi lafz itne bhari bharkam hote hai ki meri samjh choti par jaati hai, phir bhi koshish jaari hai.
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moHteram , ba'Z auqaat yeh hotaa hai keh woh lafz^ hamary liye to asaan hotaa hai mager dosroN ke liye mushkil or yehee hum per bhee lagoo hotaa hai jab hindee ka koi lafz (shabd) aa jaaey , ab jab is thread ka naam paTshaalaa rakhaa gaya to maiN lughat(dictionary) dekhny laga ke iska matlab kiya hotaa hai or yeh kiyoN bana gaya , per meree lughat mai iska zikr naheeN ha phir google kerne per pata chalaa ke paaTshaala madrasa , school keh kehty haiN
ager mujhy google kerne se bhi na miltaa to yaqeenan mai kisi hindustaanee dost se poochta , to jo lafz^ appko smajh naheeN aata woh app bilaa jhijhak usi fard se pooch laiN jisne woh darj kiya is se appko to seekhny ko mily ga hee saath mai hum bhi seekhty rahieNgy
or yehee baat hum per bhee laago hai
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Bura na mane hazur to mere jaise unginat log presently bhi bebehar ghazal likh rahe hain..aur aap logo ka barappan hai ki aap log jante hain ko woh technicals se koso duur hain per phir bhi accept karte hain ..
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app mujhy bhee apnee hi list maiN shumaar ker laiN , SDC per app mere jitnee bhi koshishieN darj haiN sab ki sab bebeHr naheeN balkeh , us maiN appko qaafia or radeef ka bhi fault nazar aaye ga , aur ab tak ka meree koi bhee koshish beHr mai naheeN hai , but i am still learning.
aisa to mumkin thaa hee nahieN ke maiN aik raat ko so ker uThoo or aik urdu daan ban jaaoN , i can say you still write better than me at least you are trying
seriously app mujhse acha likhty haiN , keep it up my friend
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But the question is who will guide such budding poets or shayars and point out the errors so that they can learn and improwise..Like in one of the posts Ahmad Shakil Sahib commented in detail verse by verse of a budding poet and told him how to rectify and improvise..
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SDC per bahut achy achy shaa'ir maujood haiN , jaisy , dheer saHb maikash saHb , kshitiz saHb , masoodhassas saHb , zidd saHb waghera waghera .
jo dheery dheery appki iSlaaH kerty rahieNge . aur aik baat zarooree naheeN ke koi aik fard hee appko sab kuch sikhaaey , app ko jahaaN se bhee kuch seekhny ko miltaa hai usse apney pass meHfooz^ kerty jaaieN , qat^rah qat^rah mil ker daryaa ban jaaey ga
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Now I want to learn and improvise but I can learn by myself..
If you have raised this isuue pls help us further in this matter.
Main aap ka tahe dil se shukrguzar hounga ..
with warm regards
Sanjay Sehgal
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app lagan aur meHnat ka sahaaraa laiN , kmayaabee appke saath rahegee