Please read. You can save someone's life

Ishiqka · **Please read. You can save someone's life -** 5th January 2003, 01:09 AM

hi dosto'N. yeh muje meri eek dost ne bheja hai. meine socha yahn post karu. Yeh shayri nehi lekin dard hai, physicall dard hai. yeh kiss'ko bhi nehi milna chahiye especially a little child. PLEASE READ BECUZ YOU CAN HELP AND IF YOU CAN PLZ COPY AND SEND TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS. IT REALLY HURTS THERE ARE PEOPLE SUCH AS THIS CERTAIN 'DAD'.

My name is Sarah

I am but three,

My eyes are swollen
I cannot see,
I must be stupid
I must be bad,
What else could have made
My daddy so mad?
I wish I were better
I wish I weren't ugly,
Then maybe my mommy
Would still want to hug me.
I can't speak at all
I can't do a wrong
Or else I'm locked up
All the day long.
When I awake I'm all alone
The house is dark
My folks aren't home
When my mommy does come
I'll try and be nice,
So maybe I'll get just
One whipping tonight.
Don't make a sound!
I just heard a car
My daddy is back
From Charlie's Bar.
I hear him curse
My name he calls
I press myself
Against the wall
I try and hide
From his evil eyes
I'm so afraid now
I'm starting to cry
He finds me weeping
He shouts ugly words,
He says its my fault
That he suffers at work.
He slaps me and hits me
And yells at me more,
I finally get free
And I run for the door.
He's already locked it
And I start to bawl,
He takes me and throws me
Against the hard wall.
I fall to the floor
With my bones nearly broken,
And my daddy continues
With more bad words spoken.
"I'm sorry!", I scream
But its now much too late
His face has been twisted
Into unimaginable hate
The hurt and the pain
Again and again
Oh please God, have mercy!
Oh please let it end!
And he finally stops
And heads for the door,
While I lay there motionless
Sprawled on the floor
My name is Sarah
And I am but three,
Tonight my daddy
Murdered me.
all

Sharaabi · 5th January 2003, 02:56 AM

JazbaatoN ko dard pauNchaati hai..
Yeh main pehle paDa chuka huuN, lekin yeh bahot hi kam logoN ko samajh aata hai..
I've seen that this doesn't happen a lot to 'desis,' usually the American Society. I'm not criticizing or anything, but still -- when KIDS read this, as being KIDS, most of them ignore it..
Only in their teenage years do they start to understand all of this, and by then it's usually too late!

Aapne nehk kaam kiya hai, is se shyad kisi ko faida bhi ho sakta hai, aur gar nahiiN hota to log aur samajhdaar zaroor ho jaayeNge

Chalta huuN,
Aman

Ishiqka · **hi aman ji -** 5th January 2003, 12:27 PM

i guess u r right but atleast the ppl who read it are going to change atleast bit of their thinking and perhaps learn this lesson now so that when their kids' are born, they will have better treatment (in good means) for them. thanks for the reply though lekin dard hota hai ke aur koi bhi eek minuite le kar reply nehi kar sakta so that everyone can get the msg through and clear. anyways. aman ji aap kehte hai ke yeh 'desis' mein nehi chalta. aap magar nehi jante ho lekin yahan canada mein so far main kam se kam 50 cases sun chuki huin iss abuse ke, bacho ke bhi aur gharwalioN ke bhi. lekin i guess kiss'si ko kya farak pad'tha hai as long as unko nehi hota yeh. anyways. duniya jaisi hai vaisi hi hai, hum aakhir badalna bhi chahe tho badal nehi sakte.
take care aman ji
plz dont mind if i said anything wrong
ishiqka

sidh · **hi :( -** 5th January 2003, 07:51 PM

hi ishika ji hi amanji
salam.ishika ji i m frm india .in my life maine aise kisse sune hai par very rarely.par ha ek baat jaroor kahuga.yaha par india me mentally torture bahot bache hote hai n i guess usa n cannada me yeh nahi hota hoga.yaha par juthi shaan etc izzat etc ke liye jo nahi karna chahte woh bhi karna padhta hai.yaha par teenagers bhi apni marji se nahi jee sakte.aise bahot si aur cheeze hai jo bolna chahta hu par public me aur kya bole.......

one more thing yaha pe to "love marraige prob hai........ yeh nahi dekha jata fstly ki ladka kaisa hai

1 criteria is : same caste ka hai?????

are jaha pyar ka sawal hai waha religion kaha aa gaya mere khyal se india me sabse kyda teenagers ko yahi prob hai

k ishika ji apne kaha kise parwa nahi...sabne apne aap me pade hai par if humme se ek ek ek karke bhi try kare to kuch to pharak padega u have done very nice thin by posting it here

keep it up .....
catch u later.....
amanji n ishika ji

hope i dint say nething wrong if i did .....mafi chahta hu

Ishiqka · **sidh ji -** 7th January 2003, 11:09 AM

ji aap kaise hai? aap theek kehte hai. magar yeh bhi saach hai ke humare India mein koi awaaz uttatha nehi. especially ladies, agar unke saath yeh abusive behavour chal raha hai voh kuch karr nehi paati kyuinke voh aapne 'ghaar' ki izzat rakhna chahti hai magar aap voh maar bhi jayen. sorry agar kuch zyada hi bol diya humne, magar yeh saach hai.
well, take care
Ishiqka
p.s thanks for the reply, its good to know that 'guys' r against this which is really great!

ghayalparwana · 7th January 2003, 06:13 PM

Being a doctor ..i can say that these type of cases r not as rare as some people might feel ,whether it is india or any other place these type of abuses against children & females r quite common..
One thing that can prevent these type of crimes 4rm taking place is to increase the awareness amongst the offenders about the consequences they will face if they are taken to court..For this to happen what is needed most..is that the women should rise 4rm her stupor & bring the guilty to the book..as it is a known reality that most of the offenders in these types of cases are mostly males,the women should be urged to inculcate those types of sanskaars in there sons so that they grow respect 4 the womenhood as a whole..
The only thing i can say to men is that they should look deep down there hearts and realize what all woman has given him as a mother..sister or ur beloved..if one realizes this i dont think he would be able to do any wrong with others' mother or sister..

Ishiqka ji aapne sach mein ek bahut achha kaam kiya hai yeh topic chedkar..shayad isse kisi ki zindagi bach jaaye..

Maaf keejiyega gar main jayaada hi bol gaya hoon
take care..ghayalparwana

sidh · **hi ishikaji -** 9th January 2003, 09:12 PM

kya aap india se hai???.........

neways thanks for replying........u know the main prob yeh hai ki yaha ke youngsters ko bhi yeh sab pata hai phir bhi unmese 10% hi hoge jo ispar soch vichar kare......ab jaise maine kaha for love marraige caste same hai ke nahi yeh dekhte hai....... thik hai har youngster yeh janta hai....woh sochta hai ki ha yaar barabar hai same caste nahi hai to kya hua but jab woh father banega m sure woh bhi shayad ispar amal nahi kare ga

i just wanna ask people jo love marraige me aur har jagah par caste diff leke baith jate hai ........ jab kisi ko blood ki jaroorat padhti hai tab kya blood bank me jakar woh caste mention karte hai ke bhai muje is caste ke admi ka blood do....are jab bana wale ne isme farak nahi rakha to tum kaun hote ho....... kab samje ga yeh sach insaan

child beating,women abuse bhi kuch kam nahi hai...................
"duniya banane wale kya tere man me samai kahe ko duniya banayeeeee"

neways ishikaji apsos to hai par hume is baat ka dhyan rakhna chhiye ki hum try karte rahe gar humari puri life me humse aise 10 logo ki thinking bhi gar change kar sake to i think humari life ki yatra safal hui aisa mai samajta hu......kya kehte ho.........once again apne bahut acha kaam kiya hai........

Ishiqka · 10th January 2003, 04:21 AM

Ghayalparwana ji, sorry hum aapka naam nehi jante.
haan mana hai aap doctor hai lekin sometimes doctors ke paas yeh answers nehi hote, galat na maniye paar its a fact. aap kyuin nehi jante honge becuz jaise meine kaha hai above ke koi ladki kissi'ko bata nehi paati kuinke voh aapni and aapne ghaar ki 'izzat' bachana chahti hai aur aap bolo voh kaise bateygi? agar voh log'k usse pehle se hi aisa maar rehe hai kaash agar uss ne galati se bhi bata diya tho voh tho mareghi, right? vaise aap meri baton ka mind na kijeye lekin i am sick and tired of hearing ke yaha ladki ko yaha mara gaya aur aisa hua.

kabhi socha nehi tha le log'h itne bedard ho sakte hai, aapne hi baache ko maar rehe hai.

chalo hum chalte hai, thanks, aisa kaam maine kuch nehi kiya sirf what was hidden in the dark is now out, atleast little bit. lekin meir khuash hai ke koi ladki yaha post kare, mein usski rayee dekhna chahti huin.

dhanaywad ghayalparwana ji, sorry agar koi galaat baat kehi ho
take care
Ishiqa

Ishiqka · **SIDH JI -** 10th January 2003, 04:36 AM

Sidh Ji, aap kaise hai? thanks for the reply. aap bhi bilkul theek kehte hai. kissi' ne kaha hai 'khuda ne koi caste nehi baaye, hum logoN ne baaTa'N hai aapne aap ko'

ji, aap iss modern life mein caste ka fikr kyuin karte ho, hum nehi karte, haan humare parents hai jo purane rawaz ke hai jo caste mein dhoobe hue hai lekin hum yaha hai, new century, new life, hum kyuin aapne aap ko baantein? agar humara pyaar yahan bhi hai hum uss paa le'ghe. haan, caste mei bhi kuch fights hoti hai, lekin jo do dil hote hai voh koi caste vaste unki relatiuon mein nehi aane dete, aap meri baatoN ka bura na maniye. hey, dost, agar aap kissi'se pyaar karte hai tho aap ja kaar usse utta lo and aapni choti si duniya baasa lo. yahan kissi ko kissi kar daar nehi.

. hope i havent said anything wrong. hey, thanks for the reply once again and thanks for the encourangement, take care and u as well, plz keep writing. chalte hain
Ishiqka

sidh · **hi -** 10th January 2003, 07:57 PM

hi ishikaji
kaise ho,hume aap ki baton ka bura nahi lagta isliye likhte rahiye.......but i think u misunderstood me...i mean to say i dont belive in caste etc i mean believe karta hu par diff nahi manta........... aur mai jisse pyar karta hu woh bhi nahi manti........par u know she loves her parents too much she is not willing to hurt them by saying that she loves guy of another caste thats the prob isliye lagta hai kuch nahi kar sakte hum....bas yeh soch ke ji rahe hai ki ........ "marne se pehle ji le jara hum...."

neways aap ne phir humare ahem sawal ka jawab nahi diya "dosti" karoge????

Ishiqka · **hi sidh ji -** 11th January 2003, 11:26 AM

hi, first of all, dost poochne se nehi bante, sirf bann jate hai. hu tho pehle se hi dost the. aap agar meri raaye poochna chahe, pooch tho nehi rhe lekin mein bata hi deti huin. baat yeh hai ke jiss'se mein pyaar karti huin voh bhi different caste ke hai. magar yaar buraa maat manana. agr voh tumse pyaar karti hai, saach karti hai dil se aur unhe maloom hai gar uske parents uski khushi ke liye kuch bhi karr sakte hai jaise voh aapna pyaar mita sakti hai kyuinke aap thode se diff hai tho voh jaroor koi na koi raaste nikal le'gi. aap sirf usse haad se paar pyaar karkar dekho tho kya hota hai dost. ok. tho end mein yehi kahungi ke aap usse haad taak pyaar karo. tho voh kya saari duniya ki ladkiya bhaag aayengi, joking. bura maat maniye plz
hey sidh ji-upaar dekho-voh kya hai?
haha ullu bana diya

take care plzzzzzzzzzzzz

byeeeeeeee
ishiqka

ghayalparwana · 15th January 2003, 12:01 PM

Sorry ishiqka ji main aapki aur sidh ji ki interesting guftgoo mein apni taang ara raha hoon..maaf kana mein is thread ki original message ke baare mein kuchh kehna chahoonga..ijazat ho agar to..

yaar jaankar dukh hua ke aap jaise log bhi in "izzat"wali dhakianoosi baaton ki parwah karte hai..ek taraf to aap sidh ji ko samjha rahi hai ke this is a modern world &one should not care about the caste system & all this bullshit & on the other hand aap hi ladki ke chup rehne ko endorse kar rahi hain ke isse uski izzat ko asar padega..i dont understand this double face..Sorry i feel ke main kaafi strong words use kar raha hoon.but kya karoon i always want to see a strong faced women aur jab koi ladki aise kamzoron ki tareh baat karti hai to, I dont know why ,i loses my cool..

Achha mujhe yeh bataea ki izzat akeli ladki ki hi kyon hoti hai iska matlab ke males waise hi beizzat hote hai..agar aisi baat hai to why to care about this society made by beizzat males..are main yakeen dilata hoon ke agar ladki strong ho jaaye to is society ke sochne ka nazariya hi badal jaayega..and i'm waitin 4 that time to come..

Ik baar phir se maafi maangooga shayad bahut jyaada bolta hoon main..
Take care..
Varinder(yeah thats my name)

dil_ka_rishta · 15th January 2003, 02:18 PM

ise padhkar to meri aakhon mein aasoo aa gaye.how can a person be so harsh.mai dua karti hoon ki kisi ke saath bhi aisa na ho aur uske saath bhi jisne ye likha hai.GOD is there and i am sure there is way out of this.
luv
janki

Ishiqka · **Varinder Ji -** 16th January 2003, 06:46 AM

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Originally posted by ghayalparwana
Sorry ishiqka ji main aapki aur sidh ji ki interesting guftgoo mein apni taang ara raha hoon..maaf kana mein is thread ki original message ke baare mein kuchh kehna chahoonga..ijazat ho agar to..

yaar jaankar dukh hua ke aap jaise log bhi in "izzat"wali dhakianoosi baaton ki parwah karte hai..ek taraf to aap sidh ji ko samjha rahi hai ke this is a modern world &one should not care about the caste system & all this bullshit & on the other hand aap hi ladki ke chup rehne ko endorse kar rahi hain ke isse uski izzat ko asar padega..i dont understand this double face..Sorry i feel ke main kaafi strong words use kar raha hoon.but kya karoon i always want to see a strong faced women aur jab koi ladki aise kamzoron ki tareh baat karti hai to, I dont know why ,i loses my cool..

Achha mujhe yeh bataea ki izzat akeli ladki ki hi kyon hoti hai iska matlab ke males waise hi beizzat hote hai..agar aisi baat hai to why to care about this society made by beizzat males..are main yakeen dilata hoon ke agar ladki strong ho jaaye to is society ke sochne ka nazariya hi badal jaayega..and i'm waitin 4 that time to come..

Ik baar phir se maafi maangooga shayad bahut jyaada bolta hoon main..
Take care..
Varinder(yeah thats my name)

VARINDER JI, SUNNO PEHLE, AAP KYA KEHNA CHAHTE HAI KE HUMARE PAAS IZZAAT NEHI? HA! AAP HO'GE 'SMART' LEKIN AAP 'SMART' JAISI BAATEIN NEHI KARTE. AGAR TUMEIN MALOOM HAI 'WOMENHOOD' KA MEANING THAN U SHOULD KNOW THAT A WOMEN HAS TO BECOME DIFFERENT CHARACTERS AT DIFFERENT SITUATIONS, LET ME GIVE U AN EXAMPLE, SHE HAS TO BE A MOTHER, A DAUGHTER, A WIFE AND A WORKER. AND IF U STILL DONT UNDERSTAND PLZ DO CONSULT ME. AND AAP KEHTE HAI KE CASTE SYSTEM IS BULLSHIT? U TELL ME THAN- WHAT IS A CASTE DESCRIPTION? DOES IT MEAN THAT WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT EYES, DIFFERENT NOSES, DIFFERENT FACES OR DIFFERENT BODY PARTS? WE R ALL THE SAME AND U KNOW IF U R INTO THE CASTE SYSTEM THEN U MUST BE REALLY OLD SO THAN THERE IS NO POINT FOR ME TO ARUGUE WITH U CUZ U HAVE DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE OF UR LIFE AND I HAVE MY OWN. BUT I CAN GAURANTEE THAT MOST PPL ARE AGAINST U.

AND THAN U MENTIONED ABOUT THE GIRL THING. WE ALL HAVE RIGHTS, FREEDOM OF RIGHTS, FREEDOM OF SPEECH IF U DIDNT KNOW THAT. SHE HAS THE RIGHT TO SAY WHATEVER SHE WANTS, THAT DOES NOT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT HER 'IZZAT'. SHE HAS EVERY RIGHT TO SPEAK AS U. OK?

AND U DONT KNOW ME SIR, SO DON'T, I MEAN IT, DON'T MAKE COMMENTS ABOUT ME. BY THE WAY, U SAY UR A DOCTOR, SIR IF UR A SO CALLED 'DOCTOR' PLZ TALK PROPERLY, I ACCEPT UR APOLOGY BUT EDUCATED PPL CHOOSE TO USE PROPER LANGUAGE THAN WHAT U HAVE SAID ABOVE. SORRY IF I SAID ANYTHING BAD TO U BUT MY MAIN POINT WAS TO HAVE THIS E-MAIL OUT THER SO THAT IT IS VIEWED BY MORE AND MORE PPL AND HOPEFULLY THEY R AWARE OF THAT. I NEVER WANTED TO DISCUSS THIS MATTER OF CASTE SYSTEM AND OTHER STUFF, JUST TO PUT MOST EFFORT INTO THIS MAIL AND SEE IT GET THROUGH MANY PPL AS IT CAN. SIR, NEXT TIME, IF UR GONA MAIL ME, REPLY ME, PLZ PLZ USE BETTER WORDS CUZ IT DOESNT MAKE U LOOK LIKE A SMART PERSON AS AM SURE U MUST BE. TAKE CARE FOR NOW
LOVE
ISHIQKA

ghayalparwana · 16th January 2003, 10:34 AM

Ishiqka ji,i don't know why,but u have totally misunderstood me...and may be i failed to understand what u want to convey in ur last mail..
aur aap keh rahi hai ke i have no respect for womanhood...beleive me...these have been the saddest words i have ever heard in my whole life..plz. refer my first mail i have posted in this thread and maybe u will realize how high a position a woman keeps in my life..i will have no hard feelings if u call me dumb, fool or anything else but the way u have described me as an anti-woman person has totally destroyed me..

Aur madam,aapne yeh kyon soch liya ke i beleive in caste system..i think ke internet ka yahi sabse bada fault hai ke aadmi kehna kuchh aur chahta hai par doosra kuchh aur hi matlab nikaal leta hai..maybe agar hum yehi baat saamne beth ke karte to aapka nazaria meri liye kuchh aur hi hota..anyway thats my destiny..everybody misunderstands me..its not ur fault..shayad aapne theek hi kaha hai..i'm not smart at all.

i apologize again that i hurt u but i didn't mean to do that..main to bus yehi chahta tha ke main kisi tarah female rights ki baat aage le kar aaon par yaha to mujhe hi gunhegaar bana diya gaya hai..

bus yeh kehta chaloonga ke aapka ham pe gussa karna jaayaz nahi hai..

GHYALPARWANA..

maine yeh

Ishiqka · **Varinder ji -** 17th January 2003, 03:31 AM

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Originally posted by ghayalparwana
Ishiqka ji,i don't know why,but u have totally misunderstood me...and may be i failed to understand what u want to convey in ur last mail..
aur aap keh rahi hai ke i have no respect for womanhood...beleive me...these have been the saddest words i have ever heard in my whole life..plz. refer my first mail i have posted in this thread and maybe u will realize how high a position a woman keeps in my life..i will have no hard feelings if u call me dumb, fool or anything else but the way u have described me as an anti-woman person has totally destroyed me..

Aur madam,aapne yeh kyon soch liya ke i beleive in caste system..i think ke internet ka yahi sabse bada fault hai ke aadmi kehna kuchh aur chahta hai par doosra kuchh aur hi matlab nikaal leta hai..maybe agar hum yehi baat saamne beth ke karte to aapka nazaria meri liye kuchh aur hi hota..anyway thats my destiny..everybody misunderstands me..its not ur fault..shayad aapne theek hi kaha hai..i'm not smart at all.

i apologize again that i hurt u but i didn't mean to do that..main to bus yehi chahta tha ke main kisi tarah female rights ki baat aage le kar aaon par yaha to mujhe hi gunhegaar bana diya gaya hai..

bus yeh kehta chaloonga ke aapka ham pe gussa karna jaayaz nahi hai..

GHYALPARWANA..

maine yeh

AAP MUJHE AAGAR ENGLISH MEIN SAMJATE THO SAMAJ AATA. SORRY LEKIN MERA YEH MATLAB NEHI THA KE AAPKO AISE KAHUN LEKIN PEHELE SE HI MISUNDERSTANDING HAI THO MERA KAHA HUA BHOOL JANA CHAHIHE. AND VARINDER JI, MEINE YEH KABHI NEHI KAHA KE AAP SMART NEHI. YEH THO BAAS AAP AAPNE UPAAR TARAS KAH KARR KEH RAHE HAI. CHALO MUJSE SORRY AND AAP EEK BAAR LIKHO LEKIN ENGLISH SO THAT MUCH BETTER UNDERSTANDING HO'GI. OK JI, HUM CHALTE HAI
TKAE CARE
ISHIQKA

Ishiqka · **Re: salam Ishiqka ji..... -** 22nd January 2003, 05:28 AM

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Originally posted by pagli gudia
asalam walikum Ishiqka ji kaisi hai aap Ishiqkaji bahut hi bura laga yeh parh kar main bhi indian hu india mein rahi hu maine socha tha aaisi low thinking aur aaisi ghatiya harqatein india main hi hoti hai par aaj pata chala ke hamara india isse to kai behtar hai main bombay ki hu baombay main kafi baar suna tha ke husband drinks lekar wife ko marte hai torture karte hai par yeh kaise log hai aur kaisa time agaya hai jo masoom se bache ko nanhi si jaan ko aaise torture karte hai bacho ka kya kasoor hota hai sab main woh to nahi kehte ke unhe janam do pehle to aaise log unko bina kuch soche born kar dete hai phir unka frustration bhi in masoom si jaan par utar dete hai aur is bechare ki mummy bhi kaisi hai atleast woh to aurat hai usse to pyar hona chahiye bache se par woh bhi aaisi hi hai allah maaf kare par aaise logo ko jeene ka koi haq nahi hai Ishiqkaji plz dont mind but yeh sab sunkar mujhe bahut gussa aa raha hai aaise parents par i love babies mujhe bache itne pasand hai maine jab yeh read kiya mere aankhon main aanso aagaye main kya kar sakti hu in bache ke liye plz tell me if i can help her or him out aur jo mere haath main hai main inshallah karungi aur allah se dua karungi ke is masoom si jaan ke saath insaaf kare Ishiqkaji ab ijazat chahungi mujhe bahut khushi hui jaan kar ke aap bhi mere jjaisi hain jo kisi bhi masoom par galat hote hue nahi dekh sakti allah aap ko bhi khush rakhe ........bye n take care

khuda hafizzzzzzzzzz

HI PAYAL JI, AAP KAISI HAI? MAAFI CHAHTI HUI POST LATE KIYA. MERE EXAMS HO REHE THE. PEHEL SE MEIN KEHNA CHAHTI HUIN KE AAPKA BAHUT BAHUT BAHUT BAHUT SHUKRIYA KE AAP YAHA REPLY KIYA. MEINE SOCHA THA KE LADKIYON KI AWAAZ BILKUUL BAND'H KI HUE HAI LEKIN AAPNE AAPNE DIL KI BAAT KEH DAALI ISS LIYE MEIN PROUD HOTI HUIN KE HAAN LADKIYON MEIN KOI THO HAI JO ISS ISSUE KO RAISE KARE. AUR PAYAL JI, AAP PEHLE SE HI MADAD KARR REHI HAI BY REPLYING. HAAN! AGAR AAP CHAHTE HAI THO PLEASE COPY THIS AND PASS IT AROUND YOUR FRIENDS AND ASK THEM TO PASS IT AROUND. HUM AGAR KISSI KI ZINDGI BACHA SAKTE HAI THO KYUIN NEHI. AGAR HUME UPAAR JA KAR KHUDA KO AAPNA MUH THO DIKHANA HAI EEK DIN. PAYAL JI EEK BAAR PHIR SE THANK YOU, HUMARE DIL MEIN EEK AAS JAAG UTTHI HAI. THANK YOU
TAKE CARE PLEASE
ISHIQKA

paplupopat · **OH GAWD !!! -** 22nd January 2003, 09:30 PM

YOU DO NOT GET TO BELIEVE THIS ALSO HAPPENS , BUT YES IT DOES.

posting this here is okay as far as spread is concern...but again

julm karanay wale sher kahan padhtay honge
julm se fursat milay to jindgi se waqif honge,
julm dekhkar khuda par yaqin nahi hota
fhir bhi khuda na hota to aap na hotay aur main bhi na hota.

sabko salaam.

paplu.

Ishiqka · **Re: hi Ishiqka ji ..... -** 26th January 2003, 11:51 AM

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Originally posted by pagli gudia
hi Ishiqka ji kaisi hai aap aur kaise hue aap ke exams well i hope ache hue honge Ishiqka ji maafi maang kar aur thanx keh kar plz humein sharminda na kijiye infact yeh to sab ka farz hai ke yeh sabse pehle read kare aur phir baaqi sab shayris read kare aur yaha reply kare aur yeh post sab ko bheje infact maine ussi din yeh post mere saaare friends ko bheja tha n i will definetely do pass this to more n more ppl Ishiqka ji i m always wid u in such things i really cant c n e child in such kind of harrasments so plz think that this sister of urs is always wid u n plz dont say thanx it would b a pleasure in helping such innocent kids aur waise bhi yeh naik kaam karne se kuch to gunaah hamare allah maaf kar de i m very much happy that u did this thing n i'll try my best to do the same ...........bye n take careeeeeeeeeeeeeee

payal........

khuda hafizzzzzzzz

ji payal ji, aur hum kya kahen aap tho 'thank u' bhi nehi suneghi. lekin app jaise koi koi milte hai en andheri galiyon mein aur jaab aap jaise naik log'h milte hai tho khuda se bahut dil mein khushi hoti hai. aap aise hi humara saath dete rehe tho khuda ki duwa se saab kuch theek hone lagega, yeh duniya ki 'hatered' bhi thodi kaam ho jayegi. payal ji, aap kaisi hai aaj kaal, india ka kya mahol hai? bhaii kaise hai? hopefully, theek ho'ge. chalo hum chalte hai, i hope u keep on writing, kyuinke finally hum aapke shers dekhne lage hai nehi tho kaam se kaam 2 or 3 hi dehkhe ho'ge. i hope u take of urself and thanks (kehna pad'tha hai) for giving me that status. i am honoured to know such strong ppl, especially being a women. take care once again
Ishiqka

Ishiqka · **Re: OH GAWD !!! -** 26th January 2003, 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by paplupopat
YOU DO NOT GET TO BELIEVE THIS ALSO HAPPENS , BUT YES IT DOES.

posting this here is okay as far as spread is concern...but again

julm karanay wale sher kahan padhtay honge
julm se fursat milay to jindgi se waqif honge,
julm dekhkar khuda par yaqin nahi hota
fhir bhi khuda na hota to aap na hotay aur main bhi na hota.

sabko salaam.

paplu.

thanks for the msg. and thanks for reading it as well. mein aapki shayri ka jawab deti huin. haan aap theek kehte hai lekin agar aap phir se padeyega iss post ko, in the beginning meine likha tha ke agar aap yeh pad'h rehe hai tho iss'se pad'h karr, copy kijeye and auro'n ko mail kijeye. that was my point. ke agar yeh mein yaha post karuin, log'h pad'heinge aur jo meine likha hai, hopefully voh yehi karenge. muje bhi maloom hai ke dil pathar phoolon ka utatha nehi. aap mind nehi kijiye koi baat lekin mein aapni soch bata rehi huin. thanks for replying once again
take care plz
Ishiqka

paplupopat · **sapney...... -** 27th January 2003, 12:13 AM

Sapne Kabhi Kabhi khud Dafna'ne Pad'the Hai

aur kahi................such bhi ho jaatey hain.

shubhkaamnayen.

paplu.

salman shaikh · **salam payal and jaan -** 28th January 2003, 12:01 AM

kia kahein yaar abtu allah ka shukaar hai haamri wife hi kaafi hai sabko handel karne ke mashallah ji yaar koi itna torture karta hai bache ko shit yaar thatw as tottaly crap haina kasam beabies r just lika flower unko tu zro se pakro tu murja jayein aur wo unko kuch rahe hain lekin zindagi main unke samne wo lamhaat ayeinge ke unko apne kiye pe pachtawa hoga insaan ka acha bura usko ishi duniya main milta hai akhraat main tu faisle hote hain bahut afsoos hoa woh sab parh ke roya nahi jhoot kiuyn bolien hum but afsoos tu hoa kasam se payal bahan agar meri kissi kisaam ki bhi heklp chahiye tu apne bahi ko batayien hum inshallah naraz nahi kareinge aur jaan kia india aur pakistan sab se bara mazhaab aur darhaam insaniyaat hai insaan acha hona chahiye ushi se uska mazhaab aur darhaam zahir hota hai kiuyn jaan am i right i love u very much plz apna khayal rakhna mere liye kudha hafiz..........................

Genius · 28th January 2003, 04:33 AM

U KnoW wht u r V Bore i don`t like it . And i don`t know Y ppl r Keep Saying that it was Good . BuT i think u r Girl that y ppl r saying that Good but the Truth is that is was Not Good Sorry if i Heart u i m Realy Sorry i hope u don`t mind

Genius · **Re: Please read. You can save someone's life -** 28th January 2003, 04:39 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ishiqka
hi dosto'N. yeh muje meri eek dost ne bheja hai. meine socha yahn post karu. Yeh shayri nehi lekin dard hai, physicall dard hai. yeh kiss'ko bhi nehi milna chahiye especially a little child. PLEASE READ BECUZ YOU CAN HELP AND IF YOU CAN PLZ COPY AND SEND TO ALL YOUR FRIENDS. IT REALLY HURTS THERE ARE PEOPLE SUCH AS THIS CERTAIN 'DAD'.

My name is Sarah

I am but three,

My eyes are swollen
I cannot see,
I must be stupid
I must be bad,
What else could have made
My daddy so mad?
I wish I were better
I wish I weren't ugly,
Then maybe my mommy
Would still want to hug me.
I can't speak at all
I can't do a wrong
Or else I'm locked up
All the day long.
When I awake I'm all alone
The house is dark
My folks aren't home
When my mommy does come
I'll try and be nice,
So maybe I'll get just
One whipping tonight.
Don't make a sound!
I just heard a car
My daddy is back
From Charlie's Bar.
I hear him curse
My name he calls
I press myself
Against the wall
I try and hide
From his evil eyes
I'm so afraid now
I'm starting to cry
He finds me weeping
He shouts ugly words,
He says its my fault
That he suffers at work.
He slaps me and hits me
And yells at me more,
I finally get free
And I run for the door.
He's already locked it
And I start to bawl,
He takes me and throws me
Against the hard wall.
I fall to the floor
With my bones nearly broken,
And my daddy continues
With more bad words spoken.
"I'm sorry!", I scream
But its now much too late
His face has been twisted
Into unimaginable hate
The hurt and the pain
Again and again
Oh please God, have mercy!
Oh please let it end!
And he finally stops
And heads for the door,
While I lay there motionless
Sprawled on the floor
My name is Sarah
And I am but three,
Tonight my daddy
Murdered me.
all

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Wht i can say but the Truth is that i don`t like .. but the truth is that the ppl r saying V Good cuz u r Gril i think that`s y they saying but but but i don`t like i hope u don`t mind

Ishiqka · 28th January 2003, 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Genius
U KnoW wht u r V Bore i don`t like it . And i don`t know Y ppl r Keep Saying that it was Good . BuT i think u r Girl that y ppl r saying that Good but the Truth is that is was Not Good Sorry if i Heart u i m Realy Sorry i hope u don`t mind

I REALLY DONT CARE WHETHER U LIKE IT OR NOT. IF I AM FIRM IN WHAT I BELIEVE IS RIGHT AND WHAT I LIKE THAN PPL SUCH AS U DO NOT MATTER IN THIS ISSUE. SORRY BUT DO NOT MIND AS I AM THE PERSON TO STAND UP FOR MYSELF. THANKS FOR REPLYING BY THE WAY.

SECOND THING IS IS THAT ITS NOT A MATTER FOR YOU TO LIKE IT ANYWAYS. IT IS THE FACT THAT THIS ISSUE SHOULD BE RAISED. I HAVE NOT WRITTENIT, IT WAS SENT TO ME BY ONE OF MY FRIENDS AND WHY I AM POSTING IT HERE IS THAT PPL CAN READ IT AND PASS IT ON SO THAT WE CAN HELP SOMEONE. IF U WANT TO TAKE YOUR NEGATIVE THINKING SOMEWHERE ELSE IT WOULD BE BETTER FOR THIS SITE. TAKE CARE
ISHIQKA AND DONT MIND, I STAND UP FOR OTHERS AND MYSELF

romana · **hi ishka ji -** 28th January 2003, 03:03 PM

yeh sab sun kar bhut bhut bura laga aur khaas kar kuch loogon ke thoughts and feeling jaan kar. i don't know hw sum 1 can be so cruel but i know people can be especially people who believe in all those stupid things such as manhoos and all that. app ne bhut acha kiya ke isko shayri.com par post kiya istarah loog apne khiyaalaat ka izhaar kar sakte hain aur apni galat fehmiyaan door kar sakte and i have heard of a case like this before it was the case study of genie a little girla nd her father kept her locked up in the attek all her life and gave her baby food to eat she had no toys to play with and no one to talk to and she could only speak three words, nomore, shut up and no. these were the things her father said to her and they all were negative words. bachu par loog zulam karte hain aur kuch loog use ignore karte hain i think jo ignore karte hain vo un zulam karne vaalu se bare zalim hote hain. keep on writing aapki shayri bi bhut achi hoti hain aur jin loogon ko yeh nahein pasand aayia i think they iant got a heart
bye

Ishiqka · **Romana ji -** 29th January 2003, 05:13 AM

Aaapka phir se bahut bahut shukriya. aapne kitna saath diya hai humara yeh hum soch karr aapko 'thank u' kehte hai once again. ji aap tho janti hi hai ke duniya hai 'chaalokon' ki aur 'naik' insaano ki, farak sirf eek hai ke voh log'h iss saaji hue mehfil mein bhi aa karr khuda ka shukriya nehi karte. lekin hum unn logoN ki soch nehi badal sakte lekin agar hum humari generation ko thoda sa msg bhej sakte hai iss issue ke upaar than i, myself think i am a winner in this. Although, bahut hi negative comments bhi mili hai magar hum haare nehi haarenghe bhi nehi kyuinke humare aur aap jaise logon ke haath mein hogi eek naani si jaan jisse hum neyi zindgi de sakte hai. Romana ji, aap ka phir se eek baar shukriya. i hope u take care
Ishiqka

romana · **hi -** 29th January 2003, 08:50 PM

may i know ur name pls

main ne aapki tareef ki kiyonke aap uske kabil thi insaan jab zulam ke khilaaf awaaz uttata hain to usko confidence and commitment ki zaroorat hoti and bachho par itna zulam kiya jaata hain ke its unbelievable ke koi kissi bacche ko bi maar sakta hain. Yesterday a little girl died and that was same case hamari local authorities child protection acts to banati hain lakin unko properly follow nahein karti. mujhe bacche bhut ache lagte hain and my heart cries whn i hear sumthing like this

take care
bye

Ishiqka · **hi, romana ji -** 1st February 2003, 12:00 AM

how are u, thanks for the reply i hope u r doing well, also thanks for the praise. i have done nothing, just brought this to ur attention and others and that is all. thanks for teh support.

hope to hear from u soon
check ur private msgs
take care
Ishiqka